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Serega_M
Inspiring
January 12, 2021
Question

Marquee Selection behaves different now when deleting the marked area

  • January 12, 2021
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Hi,

 

All the time I was using Marquee Selection tool to select a shape in Spectral Frequency Display for the frequency I need to eliminate (like constant noise, for example) and after I hit Delete button the selection was cleared. Now it behaves differently, instead of completely deleting the noise in selected area it diffuzes it or something, and in History I see "Silence Frequencies" line. I did find the topic on Reddit with the same problem and solution there was to go to Preferences -> Data and uncheck "Smooth delete/cut boundaries" and "Smooth all edit boundaries" options. Which I did, but the behaviour of marquee selection deleting is still the same. It annoys me beyond belief, so any suggestion of how to fix it? Audition is the latest version (Build 13.0.13.46).

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SteveG_AudioMasters_
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SteveG_AudioMasters_Community Expert
Community Expert
January 12, 2021

I find it to be rather bizarre that anybody would suggest a 'solution' to a problem that's only going to cause a much larger and more general one, as that is exactly what turning of the 'smooth delete/cut boundaries' and 'smooth all edit boundaries' will achieve - frequently putting a click on all of your edits. Both of them should remain enabled, and 5ms is generally a good value to use.

 

As for your problem with the marquee tool, I don't think anything has changed as far as the operation of it is concerned. I put the same file into the current, and a two-year-old, version of Audition, and removed the same amount from each, and the results were identical. So what's happened? Chances are that for some reason, the default spectral resolution setting has changed on the new version. If you right-click on the frequency scale, you get options to alter that (Ctrl+Shift+ up and down arrow keys) and also the linearity of the display. It's perfectly possible to alter the way the display looks to make the sides of a cut appear to be much steeper, giving the illusion that it's cut out more. But it is only an illusion; you can't alter the actual filter slope of the marquee tool at all. What you are seeing is the effect of the FFT size of the spectral display altering, and it's not reflected in the actual performance of the marquee filter as far as audio is concerned. 

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Serega_MAuthor
Inspiring
January 13, 2021

Hi, Steve, thanks for your reply!

 

I have tried to do what you've suggested (changed the resolution by Ctrl+Shift+ up and down arrow keys as I didn't didn't find the option by right click, maybe I am stupid, I dunno 🙂) but the problem didn't go away. It seems to me like the spectrum is split in half, the upper half is crystal clear no matter what and bottom half is only going to be more blurry wich each step, it is not like on any other spectral display pics you can find of Audition - they are uniformal, top and bottom with the same resolution.

 

Also, I did a test with marquee tool and see results: http://joxi.ru/1A5anzPIbZbdaA

depending on where in spectrum I cut audio - the edges are more blurry close to bottom to the point when it look ridiculous. This is DEFINITELY not like it was before, and it drives me nuts as I frequently clean the sound for the videos and rely heavily on spectral frequency display for that 😞

SteveG_AudioMasters_
Community Expert
SteveG_AudioMasters_Community Expert
Community Expert
January 13, 2021

You need to right-click on the actual numbers on the scale at the side, and I think you'll find it's the linearity you need to adjust as much as anything. It definitely hasn't changed - I checked this carefully - but your settings may have.

 

In theory there are keystrokes that will let you adjust the linearity settings, but they don't work on this laptop, for some reason, so the right-click option is the only one I have. Also it's worth noting that you can zoom in and out of the spectral scale by placing the mouse on the numbers and using the scroll wheel - a lot of people don't realise that.

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