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November 30, 2017
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Media Storage and Primary Temp advice

  • November 30, 2017
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Hello,

Just started using Audition to do some adr and foley recording for a movie project and so far I think it's great.  I'm wondering if a.) it's recommended that I keep my media on an external hard drive as I would while editing a video project and b.) if my primary temp folder can also be on that same drive.  On that note, what exactly is in the primary temp folder that takes up so much space?  While working today I eventually got a warning message that the folder was almost full.  Sorry if this is a very basic workflow/storage question but I'd like to get things straight before I continue.  In the past I've always used external drives for video media storage but for audio just used the drive on my computer, but it seems like what I've been doing in Audition is taking up a lot of space...

thanks,

Jimmy

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Correct answer SteveG_AudioMasters_

Anything at all that you open in Waveform view is actually opened as a temp file. And any work that you do on it is saved as a series of 'undos', so the larger the file, and the more undos you use, the sooner the temp file gets to the folder limit (imposed by the HD size as a rule). It's only when you do a final 'save' that the original file gets updated.

As for whether you should save audio on an external drive, the answer is clearly 'yes', if you can, as it's more important than the video. How so, you might ask? Well, without the audio, the pictures don't mean very much as a rule, but without the pictures, you generally have a perfectly good radio programme...

Should the temp file be on the same drive? No, not if you can help it. Ideally, temp files should have a drive of their own. I have a SSD for this, and I regard it as sacrificial, as it's going to get a lot of writes, and that's the one thing that will eventually knacker them. ANd that applies to a degree to any drive. So, you only keep things that don't matter on a temp drive, and the very last thing you do with it is put stuff you actually care about.

So the general answer to your questions is that it's best to keep anything you care about outside the computer, and temp files isolated from everything else. Your main drive should contain nothing other than object code and the OS, in an ideal world.

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SteveG_AudioMasters_
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SteveG_AudioMasters_Community ExpertCorrect answer
Community Expert
November 30, 2017

Anything at all that you open in Waveform view is actually opened as a temp file. And any work that you do on it is saved as a series of 'undos', so the larger the file, and the more undos you use, the sooner the temp file gets to the folder limit (imposed by the HD size as a rule). It's only when you do a final 'save' that the original file gets updated.

As for whether you should save audio on an external drive, the answer is clearly 'yes', if you can, as it's more important than the video. How so, you might ask? Well, without the audio, the pictures don't mean very much as a rule, but without the pictures, you generally have a perfectly good radio programme...

Should the temp file be on the same drive? No, not if you can help it. Ideally, temp files should have a drive of their own. I have a SSD for this, and I regard it as sacrificial, as it's going to get a lot of writes, and that's the one thing that will eventually knacker them. ANd that applies to a degree to any drive. So, you only keep things that don't matter on a temp drive, and the very last thing you do with it is put stuff you actually care about.

So the general answer to your questions is that it's best to keep anything you care about outside the computer, and temp files isolated from everything else. Your main drive should contain nothing other than object code and the OS, in an ideal world.

Participant
November 30, 2017

Great advice, thanks for your reply.  What would you recommend size/speed-wise for an ssd devoted to temp files? 

SteveG_AudioMasters_
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November 30, 2017

The temp SSD on my DAW is 120GB, which is way larger than it needs to be - but really the minimum is constrained by how big the files you open are, and how many levels of undo you use. Each undo is effectively the entire file size, so if you have five undos on a 1GB file before you save it, that's 5 GB you've used. Some people save a little space (and also sometimes it's quite convenient) by saving 'intermediate' versions of what they're working on, which effectively resets the temp situation back to zero.

The situation in Multitrack view is completely different, though. If you edit in Multitrack view, all the information about the edit is held in session files, and the original files you are inserting into the session aren't touched at all - so in this sense, it's far more like NL video editing. The only time a temp file enters into this is when you do a mixdown, if you allow it to open in Waveform view. The file that opens is the temp version of what you just saved - as in the above scenario.