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Thomas25297751b3dn
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December 7, 2025
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Premiere/Audition workflow for polywaves

  • December 7, 2025
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Aloha!
tl;dr
I want to use Audition to clean the audio for a short film, and the workflow isn't working.
 
I've got a short film teetering on the point between rough and fine cut, so I'm ready to start getting serious about audio. I want to do most of the initial work (noise removal, spectral repair, normalization) in Audition.
 
If I right-click on a clip in the Timeline and say "Edit in Audition," it opens that instance in Audition, and when I save changes they cascade back to Premiere. A new clip appears both on the Timeline and in the Project as "File_Extracted." Ok, fine, but...
 
Most of these audio clips are used multiple times, with separate in and out points. What I want it to edit the source clip, and have those changes cascade into the project. I don't want to manually do the same noise correction on five sections of the same clip.
 
If I right-click on the audio file in the Project bin, and hit "Edit in Audition," it opens in Audition. Any changes I make and save appear in the Project bin as "File_Extracted" but do not cascade into the Timeline instances.
 
The original is a polywave, and the extracted files are single mono files. I believe that's why this is breaking.
 
Within Audition, there are manipulations I can do to the polywave directly, but using the most powerful tools involves first extracting mono files from the polywave. I could save those mono files, and work my way through the Timeline relinking one at a time, but that's ridiculous. Plus, there are about 2,000 edits, each with as many as 5 tracks.
 
I could, having made and cleaned the mono files, use the waveform editor in Audition to create a new polywave, or to replace the contents of the original polywave. I'd be working at the system level, replacing the actual source files themselves, which should cascade into Premiere as it would have no idea I'd made any change. A brute-force attack at the OS level, replacing the source files themselves.
 
There has to be a workflow that lets me edit the source material and have those changes cascade throughout all instances on the Timeline, just like placing a LUT on a master clip. Right? This workflow can't be this dysfunctional, can it? Can anyone tell me what that workflow is?
Mahalo!

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Rag and Bone
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Rag and BoneCommunity Expert
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December 8, 2025

Will your final project end up to be a single sequence?

What I would do is complete the video editing and, once you reach "picture lock",  edit the audio for that final sequence in Audition. That's a pretty standard flow.  Make sure to time lock your extracted clips in Audition so things stay in sync.

Now, if you know some of the source audio needs cleanup you can do some of the processing on the source audio before your assemble your edit .

 

Check out this page for different options for your workflow.

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Thomas25297751b3dnAuthor
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December 9, 2025

It will indeed be a single sequence.

 

What I don't like about exporting the final sequence is that it only gives me the used clips, not the source media.

 

Imagine it's a dialogue track. On the source recording, we start with "sound rolling" and end with "cut." In between, the dialogue occurs, and probably there are some passages of silence as well. When we edit, the only thing that makes it to the Timeline are actual lines. "You dirty rat!"  "I love muffins." "It's in the marmalade jar." But those little snippets don't have handles and don't have silence to grab a noise print from.

 

Just as we can make chages to the source media on video, I want to do cleaning on the source media for audio. It doesn't seem like it should be an unusual request. Editing one file to make a uniform change to the three instanes where it appears in the Timeline. And it almost works!

 

Almost, except if the source file is recorded as a ploywave. At least, as far as I've been able to find.

Rag and Bone
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Rag and BoneCommunity Expert
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December 9, 2025

Yeah, I agree that would be nice. I don't know how to achieve that. I believe you can add handles to the export clips though.

I would do all the cleaning before the assembly if I were you. If you want the same processing on every occurrence of the clip. I'd just do the processing before of the assembly.

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