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June 19, 2020
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Recording from USB on Mackie ProFX12v3 to Audition

  • June 19, 2020
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Hello Adobe Community. Thank you for all the help answering my previous questions. Hopefully you can help out with this as well.

 

I recently purchased a Mackie ProFX12v3 (https://mackie.com/products/profxv3-professional-effects-mixers-usb) for use with Skype/Discord podcasting. The setup is a XLR microphone in channel1. I've run a cable from the speaker out on the sound card to channel 2. I then have a mono cable going from the Mon Send to the mic in on the sound card for doing a mix minus. I can hear the Skype call testing services through the headphones on the board with Skype's speakers setup as ProFX 1-2(ProFX) and the microphone works when configured in Skype as Microphone Realtek HD Audio. The USB cable is plugged in and I downloaded the latest drivers from Mackie yesterday after unboxing the rig.

 

In Audition I setup the audio hardware as Device Class: ASIO and Device: Mackie ASIO Driver. Under Audio Channel Mapping (also see attached picture) I have L1 as Analog 1 and R2 as Analog 2. For testing purposes I created a multitrack session and set Track 1 as L1 and Track 2 as R2 as mono inputs. I'm not getting any waveforms or indication that audio is coming in when recording a test track with the microphone. As another test I switched to MME to see if the analog mic input to the sound card was working and it does record and playback.

 

I believe I have my hardware wired correctly. The next part is figuring out how to get the audio from both channels into Audition. I would prefer to have the local microphone and the Skype input as separate tracks . If that's not possible I'll take a single track or buy a 2 track handheld recorder and plug it into one of the main outs and do any post processing from that recording (extra step and hardware+cables but I can live with that). Any thoughts on getting the audio into Audition as is or with additional hardware/cables?

 

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Inspiring
June 19, 2020

Past experience setting up a similiar implementation [on a Mac] using a Mackie Onyx Mixer that has a FW Return option ➝ Essentially this assigns the Main Output from the computer to channel(s) 11/12 on the mixer.

 

You have: "USB input TO mixer - playback" assignable via the "USB 3-4" switch. In essence you can assign the computer Output (e.g. Skype) to channel 11/12 on the mixer.

 

In a Multitrack Session, add 2 Tracks. Set the Input to Track 1 accordingly (your mic). Set the Input to Track 2 to receive the Skype/Computer Output via USB. That should do it. Of course success would also depend on whether you have your mix-minus implemented correctly in order to pass you mic signal back to Skype. 

 

-paul.

@produceNewMedia

SteveG_AudioMasters_
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Community Expert
June 19, 2020

"You have: "USB input TO mixer - playback" assignable via the "USB 3-4" switch. In essence you can assign the computer Output (e.g. Skype) to channel 11/12 on the mixer."

 

You could only do that if you could get the Skype output into the mixer somehow, but you won't be able to do that via the USB outputs, because they are only available to Audition via ASIO, which cuts out any input from the computer itself. If you could persuade the Skype output to feed to the external headphone output and feed that into the mixer directly as an audio input, then it might work.

SteveG_AudioMasters_
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Community Expert
June 19, 2020

I just remembered - back in the Dark Ages, I produced a .pdf of at least one way to get this working - it's here. 

SteveG_AudioMasters_
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Community Expert
June 19, 2020

Yes, the mic works in Skype, because Skype isn't using the ASIO driver you need to run the mixer - so it can still use something plugged into the mic input on the computer. But there's no way you can record this on Audition - that input simply isn't available, whatever you do, and I don't think that even Virtual Audio Cable would let you do that, as ASIO is protected from the OS. What you have to figure out is how to feed the mic input to skype from the mixer, and then separate out the feeds, bearing in mind that you can only record from the main buses on the mixer via usb - no other options are available on that mixer, which I have to say isn't exactly ideal for this purpose. What would be much better is a mixer that let you record each channel separately, with an option to pick off a bus signal if needed - far more flexible.

Participating Frequently
June 19, 2020

Thank you for the hints. Even taking Skype out of the picture I'm not able to record directly into Audition unless I'm using MME. I was hoping that any USB mixer would be able to pipe the Main Out through the USB cable so any DAW would get all the channels coming from the mixer in real time either separately or as a single track. It looks like I'll be taking a handheld recorder and plugging into the Main Out lines to capture the audio and then doing any processing in Audition. Since I've only got 2 channels to deal with that should be workable. I've seen many YouTube videos on adding an external recorder.