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Oliver Pope
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June 28, 2018
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Recovering choppy and echoing audio.

  • June 28, 2018
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Hello,

I've been recording directly into the multitrack editor in Audition CC for my podcast. I have no effects applied to the channels I'm working with while recording except the Multiband Compressor and Parametric Equalizer that was automatically applied to the master. I've been using a Mac with an AudioBox USB for an interface (with phantom power on), Shure SM58, and Audio Technica AT2020. The computer is a MacBook Pro, with a 2.2 GHz Intel Core i7 processor, 16GB 1600 MHz DDR3 RAM, and Intel Iris Pro 1536 MB Graphics running High Sierra version 10.13.1 and Audition CC build 10.1.1.11.  It's been working great until I tried to record a segment with just one mic-the Audio Technica, and it resulted in a choppy and echoing mess in playback. I've listened to the file in Finder's audio player and it sounds the same. Here's the unedited file: Problematic File - Google Drive. Is there any way I can salvage the audio for use in the podcast? It would be considerably difficult to record the segment over again. Also, what can I do differently in the future as to prevent this from happening again?

Thanks,

Oliver

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Correct answer SteveG_AudioMasters_

There are a few things to note about this: Firstly, because of the repeats it sounds as though you've recorded a digital feedback loop with latency in it. I'll tell you now that there's no fix for this at all, I'm afraid; that audio is screwed beyond any help at all.

Secondly, it's not possible to record a file in Audition with effects on it. You may think you are recording one, but actually the channel records dry. You may even think you have when you play it back, but if you remove those effects from the master channel, you'll realise that you haven't. The reason for this is that it's industry standard practice not to - simply because if you make a processing mistake, there's no way of undoing it.

So what's going on? I suspect from listening to it that somehow, the added-latency output from the master channel is being fed back to your Audiobox and added to the input that you're trying to record - and that's where the digital feedback has come from. The way to test this is to try another recording with the Master volume turned down to zero. If it doesn't happen then, you'll know what it is!

Normally (and indeed because of precisely this) you'd monitor directly from your recording device, and don't try and feed anything back from the computer whilst making the recording. You can't avoid the round-trip latency completely, whatever you do, and the best way to avoid having the problem is not to invoke it in the first place! That may be as simple as turning the 'Mixer' control on the Audiobox to 'inputs' but you may still find that you need to mute the Master channel in Audition as well.

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SteveG_AudioMasters_
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SteveG_AudioMasters_Community ExpertCorrect answer
Community Expert
June 28, 2018

There are a few things to note about this: Firstly, because of the repeats it sounds as though you've recorded a digital feedback loop with latency in it. I'll tell you now that there's no fix for this at all, I'm afraid; that audio is screwed beyond any help at all.

Secondly, it's not possible to record a file in Audition with effects on it. You may think you are recording one, but actually the channel records dry. You may even think you have when you play it back, but if you remove those effects from the master channel, you'll realise that you haven't. The reason for this is that it's industry standard practice not to - simply because if you make a processing mistake, there's no way of undoing it.

So what's going on? I suspect from listening to it that somehow, the added-latency output from the master channel is being fed back to your Audiobox and added to the input that you're trying to record - and that's where the digital feedback has come from. The way to test this is to try another recording with the Master volume turned down to zero. If it doesn't happen then, you'll know what it is!

Normally (and indeed because of precisely this) you'd monitor directly from your recording device, and don't try and feed anything back from the computer whilst making the recording. You can't avoid the round-trip latency completely, whatever you do, and the best way to avoid having the problem is not to invoke it in the first place! That may be as simple as turning the 'Mixer' control on the Audiobox to 'inputs' but you may still find that you need to mute the Master channel in Audition as well.

ryclark
Participating Frequently
June 28, 2018

Also, although it may not help with this problem, you are running last year's version of Audition. The latest public build is CC 2018 v. 11.1. You should really update to the latest version from the Adobe Creative Cloud app.