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jmarck70
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February 14, 2024
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Rippling all Volume keyframes in the volume envelope (automation area in lower part of a track)

  • February 14, 2024
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New to Audition. I'm doing lots of cuts to an interview. I was taught that "it's easier to do your volume changes in the Read-Show Envelopes-Volume at the bottom of the track instead of trying to match up the volume lines in a series of small clips (where umms, ahhhs, pauses have been removed).

Except, my editor listened to the mix and said "this is great, but let's lose this line, this line and this line" which occurred earlier in the interview. So now everything to the right of those lines needs to be shifted left. But when I ripple everything to the left, the volume changes/keyframes I made in that "read/automated" area (whatever it's officially called) DON'T MOVE WITH THE CLIPS!

So is there a setting where, if you're using ripple, those volume or pan (or the other options) changes that've been made in that "Read" area will be rippled as well? Or is my only option to use this feature as the ABSOLUTE LAST THING in my workflow? Thanks in advance for the help.

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SteveG_AudioMasters_
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SteveG_AudioMasters_Community Expert
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February 15, 2024

If you want volume or pan changes that remain in place when you edit a clip, then whoever taught you that must have been using a very old version! If you use the rubber band on the clip itself (not the automation ones, which apply to the track, not the clips in it specifically) then the volume changes will stay with the audio if you do further work on the clip, by splitting it. Same applies to panning. If you want effects that move with clips, then you should use the rack effects, with clip effects selected rather than track effects.

 

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    jmarck70Author
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    February 22, 2024

    thanks Steve. we're using the latest version. Not sure what you mean about the "rubber band". But I think what you're saying is by using this "rubbber band" volume changes will stay across a clip, even when there are cuts in the clip?  To explain maybe a little better: I have a clip that's a sentence, or a series of sentences. There's a lot of "umms" and "uhhhs" I need to take out to make it sound smooth. So now one clip has become a whole series of smaller clips. So let's call it 6 clips. If I need to bring down the volume in part of clip 3, and that volume change continues into clip 4, 5, and 6...now I need to go into clip 4 and grab that volume line and bring it down to match 3. and I need to grab the little volume line on 5 and bring THAT ONE down. And then I need to do the same thing with clip 6. The guy who's teaching us how to use Audition explained that by bringing down the volume in the automation area, you bring it down once, and that vol change stays across 4,5, and 6 without having to zoom way in and grab/change each individual volume line. In theory, that makes sense. But in practice, I can't ripple any of those volume changes at that automation level if my editor decides in her last listen that a few small things need to come out of the piece. When I cut that out and ripple everything behind it, those vol changes at the automation levels just stay where they are.   

    If you get where I'm going with this, and your explanation about "rubber bands" stands, then a little further enlightenment will help me by only doing my volume changes at the clip level and not having to mess with the automation. Thanks very much, JM 

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