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New Nikon D3, D300, and D700 "Camera" v3 beta profiles

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January 20, 2011
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Hi everyone,

I have posted a zip file containing updated "Camera" color profiles (Camera Standard, Camera Neutral, etc.) for the Nikon D3, Nikon D300, and Nikon D700. The zip file contains a copy of the readme, but I'll post it here for convenience, too:

For lack of a better name, I am calling these "v3" beta profiles.

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BETA RELEASE NOTES

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Overview

These updated Camera v3 beta profiles for the Nikon D3, Nikon D300, and Nikon D700 are designed to reduce banding and highlight color artifacts. They also address the "too bright" tone curve issues with the previous "v2" version of the D3 and D700 profiles.

IMPORTANT NOTE: When using these v3 beta profiles, if you wish to match the default tonality of Nikon's Picture Controls (e.g., match View NX / Capture NX), you must set the Exposure slider in Camera Raw / Lightroom to -0.5.

Of course, feel free to adjust Exposure to make your image brighter or darker as you like. But in terms of matching Nikon's default tonality, you must set the Exposure slider to -0.5, or the default will be too bright.

For workflow convenience, you can use presets in Camera Raw / Lightroom to take care of both (e.g., simultaneously set the profile to "Camera Standard" and set Exposure to -0.5).

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Installation

If you are on Mac OS X, drag the "Camera v3 beta" folder to:

/Library/Application Support/Adobe/CameraRaw/CameraProfiles

If you are on Windows XP, drag the "Camera v3 beta" folder to:

C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\Adobe\CameraRaw\CameraProfiles

If you are on Windows Vista or Windows 7, drag the "Camera v3 beta" folder to:

C:\ProgramData\Adobe\CameraRaw\CameraProfiles

Note that the above path on Windows Vista and Windows 7 may be hidden by default. Check your folder settings.

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Feedback

The profiles are currently in beta status. Please provide feedback via the online Adobe user-to-user forums here:

http://forums.adobe.com/community/cameraraw
http://forums.adobe.com/community/lightroom

Thank you!

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adobe_camera_raw

Participant

Dear all,

I have nikon coolpix L310, is it work on the camera?

please, explain me how its work on it. thank's so much

nikonflickr

MadManChan2000Author

Adobe Employee

Does the Coolpix L310 support raw? (I don't think so, but just wanted to check.) These types of color profiles are only available for cameras that support raw format (i.e., NEF).

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cherryvega

Participant

I've never posted here before, but I just want to say how unbelievably happy and relived I am. I just spent the last hour and a half reading the adobe forums to try and see if there is an obscure solution out there to the purple/green issue. I've battled with this ever since there was the change over from beta1 profiles a few years ago. It has been a constant headache for me in delivering good final images to my clients.

And I just cannot believe the fix was actually in the last official ACR update - I honestly never expected it would happen. I also wish I'd found this forum post earlier this year! But for now I am one very very happy d700 user. FINALLY! (:

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gringomalbec

Participant

Vit, could you put your v4 D700 standard profile on different site as megaupload is not working, I would like to give it a try if possible.

Thank you.

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Cristiano_Palazzini

Participating Frequently

Gosh....Vit...no way to have a New Year present for the D3X?? eheh just kidding....but...you never know!

In any case a Very Merry Christmas to you and all the people in the Forum!

All the best

Cristiano

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jepoma

Participant

Hi Everyone,

I just happened to this discussion and, being a novice in such matters, I have three questions (if it makes any difference, I am an Lr 3.6 user):

Is there somewhere a summary of the differences between the existing camera profiles and, in particular, the beta profiles (of particular interest are tips as to their use - like the v3 beta profiles requiring a -0.5 exposure compensation) ?
Is it clear that the v4 beta profiles are, in general, better than their predecessors, or are there particular circumstances, shoot parameters for which they are particularly well suited ?
I already have quite a number of camera profiles (including the "dcpTool untwist" ones - any real use for these ?) and I am now considering (depending on the answers to the first two questions) to clean-up my system and upgrade to the v4 beta profiles. Now, to do this, I'd like to be able to identify the photographs to which I applied a camera profile that I intend to get rid of. How can I identify such photographs ?

Many thanks in advance to you all gurus for your time and effort in answering the above.

Cheers.

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b2martin_a

Participating Frequently

I get a much better match between Camera Portrait v4 processed with ACR 6.6 to Nikon Capture NX2 Portrait if I set black to 9 instead of 5 in ACR 6.6. This also give good match between Camera Portrait v2 processed with ACR 6.5 (black = 5) and ACR 6.6 (black = 9).

Anyone else see this characteristic of ACR 6.6?

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Anonymous

Are you sure you used all "default" settings in ACR, in particular did you use linear tone curve in ACR (tab Tone curve, subtab Point) instead of Medium-contrast ? Setting needed to match NX2 is "medium-contrast"

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b2martin_a

Participating Frequently

I am positive I used "default" settings in ACR including tone curve (tab Tone curve, subtab Point) - I checked them after your above post. Do you have a D700 NEF file you can check yourself? Convert it using Camera Portrait v2 with ACR 6.5 (black =5) and ACR 6.6 (black = 5) and they are not the same. Change the black to 9 in ACR 6.6 and the conversions are very close.

When I do conversions of D700 NEF files using ACR 6.6 with black level = 9 and Camera Portrait v4 they are very close to NX2 conversions using Portrait.

It appears the black slider of ACR 6.6 has a problem relative to ACR 6.5.

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b2martin_a

Participating Frequently

Vit, I agree that images converted using ACR6.5 and ACR6.6 with the same Camera profile should match, but that is not what I see. I used Camera Portrait v2. I also get better match between ACR6.5 with Camera Portrait v2 than ACR6.6 with Camera Portrait v4 to Nikon Capture NX2 Portrait conversions. All of these are using D700 NEF files.

I sent you images by e-mail that show the issue.

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b2martin_a

Participating Frequently

I downloaded Camera Raw 6.6 Release Candidate and installed it on CS5. I compared D700 Camera Portrait v4 to Capture NX2 Portrait and they appear lower in contrast - don't match as good as Camera Portrait v2 with Camera Raw 6.5. Camera Portrait v2 dosen't match as good with Camera Raw 6.6 as it did with Camera Raw 6.5. It appears contrast is lower with Camera Raw 6.6 than 6.5. Anybody else notice this?

I also notice the recovery slider issue with v4 profiles, but not with v2 or v0 profiles.

How can you return to Camera Raw 6.5 after you install Camera Raw 6.6 Release Candidate?

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Anonymous

Hmmmm...

You are talking about 2 things

About using v2 profile with ACR 6.5 and 6.6, there shouldn't be any difference - it's the same profile and same workflow. However, I tried D700 Camera standard v2 with both versions and indeed there are VERY SMALL differences if I do a file compare of output tiff files, but so small that they shouldn't be visible

About dng v4 profile versus NX2 - I already did some tests and sent Eric the results - although v4 workflow is better in shadows, their calibrating procedure didn't seem to be (yet) improved in that region as it could be and bottom part of tone curve is raised compared to NX2 output. That can be visible as slightly lower contrast - if it's the same thing as you noted and not something else of course ... I already have my version of Standard v4 for D700, so if you want, I can post it so you can try and check if you can see any differences. Didn't make Portrait profile though.

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Anonymous

In the meantime, here is corrected v4 version of Standard profile for Nikon D90

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=GS31EK0P

It has the same name as profile I posted previously, so if anybody downloaded it, just overwrite it with this file

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Cristiano_Palazzini

Participating Frequently

Hi Guys,

I guess no chance to have this new profiles also for a D7000 and D3X....or yes?

Thanks

Cristiano

Noel Carboni

Legend

I don't want to be argumentative, and I know nothing about Nikon, but are we really sure these cameras use the same AA/IR block filter, same sensor filter compositions, same amplifiers and A to D conversion, and same raw data processing?

A small variance in any of these things could make a big difference in the color characteristics.

-Noel

Hudechrome

Known Participant

Not argumentative, but realistic. My guess is that things like noise control and other basic corrections done at the root level might be different, but it makes little sense to have the same sensor for at least three cameras that preculdes the use of common filters and profiles. I will grant you points around the converter and possibly the amp.

However, Nikon did not do that for the D700, (AFAIK!).

Perhaps decompiling the D300 and doing the same change as was done between the 300 and 300s might be in order. It's about time I learn about doing this kind of work. I have the d/l. (Yikes! )

On another front, I suddenly have the Nikon View NX looking like it's double profiling, or something. (My SO uses it on the other computer). So I have my work cut out for today.

Later.......

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Sucher888

Participating Frequently

I draged the "Camera v3 beta" folder to (Win7): C:\ProgramData\Adobe\CameraRaw\CameraProfiles.

There are 2 other folders: Adobe Standard and Camera

Within LR / ACR are just standard Adobe settings, nothing about "Nikon ...v3.dcp"

Tried different places, but still the same ...

What am I doing wrong?

PS: After unzipping filenames showed up in green instead of just black (Windows Explorer). Changeing this did not help either.

Noel Carboni

Legend

Given your mention of the color difference, is it possible you dragged a zip file into the CameraProfiles folder? Windows Explorer attempts to make zip files look like folders, so there could be confusion there, but Adobe will not read information out of zip files directly.

Try making a subfolder under CameraProfiles called Custom. Then try dragging the .dcp files specifically into that folder.

I'm assuming your camera is one of the ones noted.

-Noel

Noel Carboni

Legend

One more thing...

When I add profiles for my own camera, I don't put them in the location listed above, I put them here:

C:\Users\NoelC\AppData\Roaming\Adobe\CameraRaw\CameraProfiles

This is more flexibly expressed in the general case as the following, which can be pasted into the Windows Explorer address bar:

%USERPROFILE%\AppData\Roaming\Adobe\CameraRaw\CameraProfiles

-Noel

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