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September 5, 2024
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P: Adaptive Profiles

  • September 5, 2024
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This post applies to Camera Raw.  
Feedback for Lightroom Classic and Lightroom Desktop should be posted here.

 

Update February 2025:

Adobe has introduced two Adaptive Profiles – Adaptive Color & Adaptive B&W.

 

Getting started with the Adaptive Profiles: 

  • Access a profile inside the profile favorites menu. 
  • In addition, there is a new section for Adaptive Profiles in the Profiles browser. 
  • Enable the profile and adjust the ‘Amount’ slider as desired. 
  • Use the rest of the Camera Raw tools just like you would otherwise. 


Check out the Help Page for more detailed usage information. For more technical information on the underlying technology, please refer to this blog post

 

Please try the profiles and share feedback in this community forum thread. It would help to include details like how you access Camera Raw (via Adobe Bridge or Photoshop), your computer system details, and as much information as possible about what you like or do not like about the resulting image quality. Our team will continually monitor this thread to track issues and improve the future experience. 

 

Best practices for using the Adaptive Profiles:
 

Try the new profile in the following scenarios: 

  • For food scenes. 
  • In situations where simply moving Tone and Color sliders may not be sufficient, such as for: high-contrast scenes, landscape or cityscape scenes with skies. 
  • For High-Dynamic-Range (HDR) photography, simply select Adaptive Color or Adaptive B&W as a profile and click on the ‘HDR’ button. 

    Note: Adaptive Profiles generate HDR and Standard Dynamic Range (SDR) data jointly, creating photos that look consistent with one another. In other words, after applying either of these profiles, if you toggle the HDR button on or off, you will see either the adaptive HDR or SDR look, depending on the position of the toggle.  


To maximize the value of using Adaptive Profiles, please follow these steps: 

  • Always start from the Adobe Default or Camera Default rendering (with no other edits) and enable the Adaptive Profile first. 
  • Reset any other settings before applying the profile. 
  • Make additional global and local edits after assigning the profile, just as you would begin to edit photos with Adobe Color or any other profile. 


Boris Ajdin: Product Manager, Emerging Products Group 


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Inspiring
October 19, 2024

A more amateur take:

 

I've been particularly pleased with how this is handling landscape/wide angle scenes in HDR with slightly broken overcast skies. The skies, and the broken portions in particular, are by far the brightest portions of the photo. It's hard to get that sky to look good in HDR. It's getting the curve and intensity of the HDR about right behind some nicely toned clouds. So, it does a great job with that. The rest of the frame needs a bit of masked adjustment to make the appropriate objects pop (it's a pretty low contrast scene all around; it would need this no matter what). But, it's a really good start.

 

Flipping back to SDR on the same image is less impressive in terms of how it handles the sky. It's definitely better than any of the "standard" profiles off the bat (and better than standard profiles + auto settings), but I'm happier with the sky in SDR if I mask it and add +10 dehaze to kick up the intensity/contrast a bit. The rest of the image is about the same.

 

Using ACR 17.0 via Bridge 15.0 on MacOS 15.0.1, MBP M1 13" 2020. Working on Halide Process Zero DNGs shot on an iPhone 12.

Inspiring
October 19, 2024

It's mentioned at the bottom of this blog post that you're looking into generating JPEGs with both the SDR and HDR versions. I assume this is just making the HDR version display via a gain map on top of the SDR rendition. This is awesome—the current base SDR rendition tools for HDR images can be really rough. Please be sure to include AVIF/JXL in that file format pool now that you're supporting gain maps there, too!

 

I'm a big fan of being able to switch back and forth between HDR and SDR mode without having to suddenly re-edit massively for one or the other. This is obviously crucial to that first piece—editing in a way that'll produce great SDR base renditions for an HDR gain map. But it's also just useful when deciding whether it's worth keeping something in HDR.

 

Broadly, that ability to switch back and forth between SDR and HDR without a massive re-rendering would be great in much wider use. More options for how it actually handles the image colors and curves (ala Color/Landscape/etc as we have today), and the ability to apply across a wider range of file formats. Please include HEIC there. I know we're just getting treated to this in beta and more is coming, so this isn't a criticism of what it can do now—more a "this seems like a good path" encouragement!

Dal_s_Photography
Participating Frequently
October 17, 2024

Since it's the first time I use Adobe's adaptative Profile, I can agree that it flattens the image, and yet, it corrected highlights which is quite good for certain images. Of course it all depends on the intent of the image we are editing  image. As I am going to print later my birding images, some of them were benefited with the A. Profile , and other's were not.

It might be a very interesting option when it can be sudivided into categories , as we can do with our cameras (cars, people, birds, insects, etc) . On the other hand, I think it's a good starting point, and I wouldn't use it in the middle of the photo development. I have used the other Adaptative included profiles (the long list) and generally it doesn't work for me. As I said, we are all different photographers, and with different aims and styles.  One recommendation would be what ON1 Photo Raw already included last year, which is to train those profiles according to what we wish on a session of photos, that might be interesting. Right now, and as it is, at least for me, results are very limited. Yet I think that as it is a work in progress, it has potential. Thank you.

Participating Frequently
October 17, 2024

Hi! Will this feature be available in LRC too? I was excited to give it a try yesterday and got a bit disappointed. 

Inspiring
October 17, 2024

I suspect that it will make its way there once it's tested sufficiently, feedback gathered, and finalized! It's currently a tech preview, which they often release in one product or another before it gets rolled out more broadly.

Participating Frequently
October 17, 2024

Gentlemen,

I did try with different on some landscape picture and it works wery well, surprisingly well, the same with some picture of the interior of my house.

"Well" means very good dynamic range, no color shift and good luminosity and contrast, the picture does not need many adjustements after the application of the new peofile, basically most part f the job is done simply appling the new profile.

In my experience, the application of the profile is absolutely the first operation to be done on the workflow of the         RAW.

Good job and.....bravi!

Known Participant
October 16, 2024

Just playing around with it for the first time today. So far, I'm liking what I see. Of course you don't select "Adobe Adaptive" and be done editing, so I've found any tonal issues can be dealt with easily you start off with the image quite a bit closer to what the end result is going to be. I'm surprised and very satisfied so far, though I'm only on my third photo...

Legend
October 16, 2024

I would advise not using the new Super Resolution in combination with the new Adobe Adaptive (beta) profile unless you want this

 

 

to become this

 

 

It looks a bit like the Adobe Adaptive (beta) profile creates some kind of "mask" based on the original image size and leaves it in place when applying the adaptive adjustments. If it is a "mask", it is also resized because the adaptive profile seems to apply to the whole image, but the small "mask" is also applied to the top left quarter of the image.

 

I hope this bug gets fixed soon.

Legend
December 13, 2024

This problem has been fixed in ACR 17.1

Participant
October 15, 2024

Funzione eccellente aiuta molto nel flusso di lavoro

Participating Frequently
October 15, 2024

Works suprisingly well even with rather challanging images, what i would like to see is an option for separate controll of applied color and luminance corrections. 

Participant
October 15, 2024

Some feedback - how it feels so far and what the results look like.
I shoot a lot of street and urban situations, sometimes with very changing light conditions. The whole thing with a fairly modern camera, 47mp.
If you take a picture without strong contrasts and provided you really start at 0, the result is okay. The colors are ok. The contrast is very flat, which is fine as an output. What you get here is a flat preset and a very neutral starting point. Nothing more and nothing less.