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Rikk Flohr_Photography
Community Manager
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May 16, 2024
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P: New AI-powered Generative Remove (Early Access) available across all surfaces.

  • May 16, 2024
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This post applies to Camera Raw.
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The Photography team is sharing an early look at Generative Remove, which makes it easier to remove unwanted objects and distractions, even on complex backgrounds, with a simple brush stroke. Generative Remove is powered by Firefly AI.
 
How to use Generative Remove on a desktop:

  • You can find Generative Remove under the newly renamed Remove panel (aka “Heal”).
  • Make sure the “generative AI” checkbox is enabled before you start brushing (note: when unchecked, Lightroom will use Content-Aware Remove to fill your brushed spots). 
  • By default, you will be given a moment to refine your selection with an add or subtract brush. Remember to include shadows for a more accurate result! You can also skip this step by holding down ‘CTRL’ on windows or ‘CMD’ on mac as you finish your brush stroke. 
  • Once you’re ready to apply and have accepted the terms, Generative Remove will use Firefly AI to remove your distractions and intelligently fill in the space that’s left by the removed objects. 
  • Note: stable internet connection is required to use this feature.
  • Generative Remove also lets you choose from multiple variations, so you can pick the one you like best, giving you full creative control. 
 
Please give it a try and share feedback and/or report variations in this community forum. It would greatly help to include details like which app you are using (i.e., Lightroom Classic or Camera Raw) and other system details. Our team will continually monitor this thread to track issues to improve the future experience.
 
Lisa Ngo: Lightroom Product Manager
Posted by: Rikk Flohr 

Update (Dec 2024):  With the new release, it is no longer necessary to perform Generative Remove Operations prior to Cropping. 
 
Update:
Here are some tips if you are having issues with the feature replacing your object instead of removing it. 
  • Enlarge your selection - if your brush stroke is too tight, you will have unexpected results.
  • Remember that removing an object means painting over it, its shadow, its reflection, and any non-contiguous pieces. If you leave behind a shadow, a reflection, or a disconnected piece (e.g., a hand on a shoulder), the AI will attempt to create something to cast the shadow, reflect, or complete the unbrushed discontinuous item. 
 

The recommended order for applying edits is:

 

  1. Denoise 
  2. Heal (includes Generative AI Remove)
  3. Crop (includes traditional Cropping, Lens Correction, Transform, or any operation changing the geometry of the image, including round-tripping to PS to use Gen-Expand)
  4. Global Edits
  5. AI Selective edits (Sky, Person, etc)


If you deviate from that, you may see the removed object remain a ghost image. If this occurs, you will have to use Update AI Settings.

 

91 replies

Participant
July 15, 2024

Well mostly successful but then changed a person to a black dog instead of rocks and sand, then changed a man with a camera to a woman with a camers??

Participant
July 10, 2024

Overall surprisingly impressed.

It is so close to being excellent for the removal of small annoyances. If it were a little more intuitive (could give it a couple preprogrammed prompts, i.e. remove flyaway hairs; does not need to be as limitless as photoshop), it would save even more trips into Photoshop, thus saving time and money for our business. It's almost there, just noticing a few discrepancies here and there. 

Participant
July 14, 2024

Ich will 2 Menschen entfernen. Als Ergebniss werden trotz erweitern und aktuallisieren Lustige Figuren angezeigt. So ein Müll hatten wir vorher nicht, Normal wäre kenzeichnen und das Objekt wird mit dem Hintergrund ersetzt. Bis das mal erreicht wird bin ich gestorben.

Yonca Muslubas
Participant
July 9, 2024

 Unfortunately, I'm frustrated with the new version because when it comes to spot removal, it keeps asking for an update and does not save the changes I made, which is costing me a huge amount of time.

Participant
July 4, 2024

Hi, I am using AI generative Remove for about two weeks now and I must say sometimes it works fantastic.

 

But sometimes it is impossible to control. I am mainly using the tool to remove items that disturb in my picture. My main interest is to remove artifacts that disturb me and let the AI generate the perfect background that fits in the original surrounding, like the "Entfernen" Tool in photoshop 2024 which I do use often after the raw or dng process

 

Unfortunately  the AI Remove tool for Lightroom classic is to much into creating new things to substitute the removed stuff.

For example if Idid remove a lamp it is creating new different style lamps instead of filling perfectly the hole.

 

As I work in a documentary style photography this is mainly not what I need and it would be great to find a solution for people, that just want to let disappear little disturbing artifacts and nobody would recognize it after.

Why do you not try, beside that main topic of generating new things, to work just on a tool that 100% helps for to let disappear disturbing stuff and you cant see that it was there.

Participating Frequently
July 5, 2024

Still not perfect, but ...

I've had better luck getting clean and usable (sometimes amazingly good) removals if I plan the removal  and execute it ►before I do anything else◄  to the image.

Halo Photography Ltd
Known Participant
July 4, 2024

I'm finding that it wants to "replace" rather than "remove". Swapping a pole for another type of pole for instance.

Participant
June 28, 2024

It'd be cool if generative remove would only remove the object and not replace it with some other object. This thing can generate all kinds of wonky objects, but can't seem to generate a corner.

gary_sc
Community Expert
Community Expert
July 1, 2024

My biggest frustration with AI generation (for removal of something in the image) in ACR is the loss of keeping an iteration and then trying to see if it can do something better. 

 

By this, I mean that I get three options: #1 is OK, #2 is not good, and #3 is bad. I now select to refresh, and all three are worse than #1 from before, but I've removed it. If the second set had another one that was considered OK, I could have compared them side by side, but that's gone as well. It's really bad when the second set is bad and I've removed the OK version which could have been fixed to make it fine.

 

Is there any way to keep one or more of a set of three to "bank" it/them, for future comparisons?

Participant
June 26, 2024

Basically getting there, butr as the reviews say, there is a darck patch after the Object is removed. Also its slows down the machine to a great deal, specially lens BLUR.  working on a M2 Mac studio , sonoma 32 gb ram. 

Participant
June 26, 2024

The heal, remove and clone all need separate toggles so that the history doesn't affect all spot removal.  Currently you can't clone, remove and heal in one image.  It's all heal, all remove or all clone.  Not ideal.

Erik Bloodaxe
Legend
June 26, 2024

"Currently you can't clone, remove and heal in one image.  It's all heal, all remove or all clone."

 This is incorrect. You can mix and match tools with the same image by exiting the Brush Tool panel and re-entering it when you can select a different tool without affecting previous ones. Use the B key as a toggle to achieve this so pressing B twice in succession will effect this.

Participant
June 25, 2024

Still not ready to take a walk on the wildside, I need a bit more reality right now, it's like there is too much plastic out there. I will eventually expermint to understand but still not ready for the whole Enchilada!!

Participant
June 24, 2024

So let's try it.