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Rikk Flohr_Photography
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May 16, 2024
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P: New AI-powered Generative Remove (Early Access) available across all surfaces.

  • May 16, 2024
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This post applies to Camera Raw.
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This thread is now closed. Please update to Camera Raw 17.x. If you wish to provide feedback, please go to the new article.

 
The Photography team is sharing an early look at Generative Remove, which makes it easier to remove unwanted objects and distractions, even on complex backgrounds, with a simple brush stroke. Generative Remove is powered by Firefly AI.
 
How to use Generative Remove on a desktop:

  • You can find Generative Remove under the newly renamed Remove panel (aka “Heal”).
  • Make sure the “generative AI” checkbox is enabled before you start brushing (note: when unchecked, Lightroom will use Content-Aware Remove to fill your brushed spots). 
  • By default, you will be given a moment to refine your selection with an add or subtract brush. Remember to include shadows for a more accurate result! You can also skip this step by holding down ‘CTRL’ on windows or ‘CMD’ on mac as you finish your brush stroke. 
  • Once you’re ready to apply and have accepted the terms, Generative Remove will use Firefly AI to remove your distractions and intelligently fill in the space that’s left by the removed objects. 
  • Note: stable internet connection is required to use this feature.
  • Generative Remove also lets you choose from multiple variations, so you can pick the one you like best, giving you full creative control. 
 
Please give it a try and share feedback and/or report variations in this community forum. It would greatly help to include details like which app you are using (i.e., Lightroom Classic or Camera Raw) and other system details. Our team will continually monitor this thread to track issues to improve the future experience.
 
Lisa Ngo: Lightroom Product Manager
Posted by: Rikk Flohr 

Update (Dec 2024):  With the new release, it is no longer necessary to perform Generative Remove Operations prior to Cropping. 
 
Update:
Here are some tips if you are having issues with the feature replacing your object instead of removing it. 
  • Enlarge your selection - if your brush stroke is too tight, you will have unexpected results.
  • Remember that removing an object means painting over it, its shadow, its reflection, and any non-contiguous pieces. If you leave behind a shadow, a reflection, or a disconnected piece (e.g., a hand on a shoulder), the AI will attempt to create something to cast the shadow, reflect, or complete the unbrushed discontinuous item. 
 

The recommended order for applying edits is:

 

  1. Denoise 
  2. Heal (includes Generative AI Remove)
  3. Crop (includes traditional Cropping, Lens Correction, Transform, or any operation changing the geometry of the image, including round-tripping to PS to use Gen-Expand)
  4. Global Edits
  5. AI Selective edits (Sky, Person, etc)


If you deviate from that, you may see the removed object remain a ghost image. If this occurs, you will have to use Update AI Settings.

 

91 replies

Participant
June 24, 2024

 Trying to remove items in LrC only to find a substitute item in its place.  I am ensuring the selected area covers all of the selected item yet I'm still getting no joy.  I am having to use the lasso tool in PS instead so it's actually increasing my workflow for many files. I am stopping using the LrC tool until it is improved.  When it works however, it works well....just not often enough.

 

betsym9277220
Participant
June 23, 2024

I tried to remove something with generative AI in LrC and got a fail notice and to try later.

 

Participant
June 23, 2024

Ne yazık ki, elektrik direkleri gibi bazı elemanlar kaldırılamaz.

Participant
June 19, 2024

Feature Request: Noise Adjustment Slider in Remove Palette

 

Using Lightroom Classic's early access "Remove" palette Generative AI feature, it would be immensely helpful to add and adjust the amount of noise over the selected area being filled. Introducing a noise adjustment slider within the Remove palette would greatly enhance the tool's flexibility and efficiency.

 

Currently, adding noise to the filled area is easier in Photoshop because Generative Fills create their own smart object layers. Unfortunately, this level of control isn't available in Lightroom Classic as it stands. The Generative AI tool works well for removing logos from complex textures, such as clothing or a basketball. However, the filled areas often appear too smooth, possibly due to low-resolution generation, making the edits noticeable. A bit of noise can significantly improve the realism, making the filled area nearly indistinguishable to the eye.

 

Although it's possible to remask the area and add noise using an isolated brush, this method is redundant and problematic. It’s challenging to distinguish the previous mask, leading to potential errors where noise might be missed or added incorrectly.

 

Suggested Solution:
- Noise Adjustment Slider: Add a slider within the Remove palette for real-time adjustment of noise levels.
- Real-time Preview: Provide a live preview of noise application to fine-tune the effect instantly.
- Seamless Integration: Ensure the noise adjustment integrates smoothly with the Generative AI fill, maintaining workflow efficiency.

 

Benefits:
- Enhanced Realism: Adds subtle noise to blend the filled area with the surrounding texture, improving the overall result.
- Streamlined Workflow: Simplifies the process, eliminating the need to switch between Lightroom and Photoshop.
- Precision Editing: Prevents mistakes and ensures consistent noise application within the same tool.

 

Conclusion:
Implementing a noise adjustment slider in the Lightroom Classic "Remove" palette would significantly improve the tool's usability and effectiveness, making it a more powerful and user-friendly option for professional photo editing. Thank you for considering this feature enhancement.

Inspiring
June 18, 2024

This needs to be directed by text as is the generative fill in PS. Even if you select a large area, if you have a dominating black feature, it will maintain the feature and / or produce a visual result which is off tonally.

Participant
June 18, 2024

Spending less time editing my photos.

pixelpapst
Participant
June 17, 2024

Useless until there is no high resolution (strange pattern)!

Participant
June 14, 2024

I'm just starting to use the AI remove tool. What I am noticing is that in the place I have removed something there is a left over lack of detail (soft)  that gives an obvious place of removel. I opted to "Denoise." at 50% and it helped a lot. However It is still noticible where the object was. I will say that so far this operation is over all very good. As always it needs more tweaking. The goal is to get "Clone" quality in the replaced area. I'm sure a forensics expert could still see a change/alteration. Keep up the good work and i'm sure it will get greatly improved over time.

Participant
June 14, 2024

Removals weren't there when I reopened the file again later to make adjustments.

Participant
June 14, 2024

The new feature is doing fairly well. I haven't attempted anything major, only some small, circular, reflective flairs that were distracting. It's quite slow to process even for a very small area. But it's new, so I imagine that will get faster. An option to feather the selection would make the results more natural-looking too. 

The ability to "undo" by step instead of undoing all of it would be extremely helpful, as well! 
Looking forward to what this will be able to do all in-app in the future!