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Rikk Flohr_Photography
Community Manager
November 5, 2024
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P: Reflection Removal feedback (CR & LrClassic)

  • November 5, 2024
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This post applies to Adobe Camera Raw plug-in.  

 

Adobe Camera Raw team is sharing an early look of our new Reflection Removal feature, which removes reflections caused by plate glass surfaces from photos. 

 

Note: 

  • The feature currently only works on raw photos. Support for JPEGs & HEICs is added in the April 24 Update.
  • There is a known issue on some Windows machines where the feature may produce a corrupt image. We are working on a fix for the upcoming release. 

 

Check out HelpX for more detailed usage information. For more technical information on the underlying technology, please refer to this Blog post. 

 

Getting started with the Reflection Removal feature: 

  • Make sure you have the “New AI Features and Settings Panel” Technology Preview enabled in the Camera Raw plug-in Preferences dialog (requires restarting the host application to activate). 
  • Go to the Remove panel [B] , and in the “Distraction Removal” section, click on the “Reflections” checkbox. 
  • Optionally adjust the slider after the ML model is done computing. 
  • Use the rest of the Camera Raw tools just like you would otherwise. 

When using the slider, the key values to note are: 

  • 0 – the input photo
  • 100 – de-reflected (window reflections removed) photo 
  • -100 – reflection photo (what the window was reflecting towards the camera) 

 

Please try the feature and share feedback in this community forum. It would help to include details like how you access Camera Raw (via Adobe Bridge or Photoshop), your computer system details, and as much information about what you like or do not like about the resulting photo quality. Our team will continually monitor this thread to track issues to improve the future experience. 

 

When to use Reflection Removal

The feature is designed to deal with large-area reflections when shooting through windows. Many other types of reflections occur in nature and are captured in photographs, but this feature may not recognize and handle those. We plan to work on expanding the supported reflection types in the future. 

 

Example use-cases for the feature include: 

  • Looking through windows inside-out (e.g., from the car, airplane, room windows, etc.) 
  • Looking through windows outside-in (e.g., shop windows) 
  • Museums (e.g., paintings behind glass, glass case exhibits, etc.) 

 

How best to use Reflection Removal

For best results, try the new feature following these suggestions: 

  • Apply Reflection Removal before applying any other edits to the photo, except for Enhance features such as Denoise
    • The changes made to the photo may be quite profound and render any changes you already made inappropriate.
    • If you plan to use both Enhance (Denoise, Super Resolution, or Raw Details) and Reflection Removal on a photo, it is better to apply Enhance first.
  • Play with the feature slider and adjust the removal strength as appropriate.
  • If you applied Adobe Adaptive (beta) profile prior to running the Reflection Removal feature, please update it or you may see traces of removed reflections still present in the photo (Adobe Camera Raw will remind you to do this).

 

Boris Ajdin: Product Manager, Emerging Products Group 


Update (01-16-2025)

 

To improve the performance and results of this feature, it is important that examples of images that are failing to properly remove the reflections are forwarded to the team via your report.  A large variety of file formats are allowed as attachments in these forum posts. The best option is to attach your image's raw file directly to your feedback post. Note that there is a 50 MB limit on an attachment's file size. If your raw file is too large to attach, the best option is to share the file via a file-sharing service (Dropbox or similar) and then share the link in your feedback post. Thank you for continuing to provide feedback on this Tech Preview!

If you have already shared your raw file with us - thank you!

 

~Rikk

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Correct answer Conrad_C

This reply, earlier in this thread, explains why:

https://community.adobe.com/t5/camera-raw-discussions/p-reflection-removal-feedback-cr-amp-lrclassic/m-p/15405349#M28971

 

Also, it isn’t called “glare reduction.”

534 replies

Participant
January 19, 2025

Rogerio Rondon
Participating Frequently
January 19, 2025

Exactly the same results that I get, whichever way I open a Raw file (I've tried from PS, LR and as a smart object). 

Participating Frequently
January 18, 2025

Issue - referring to "There is a known issue on some Windows machines" in original post!
On my Windows 10 computer I tested this tool on over a dozen NEF files dating from 2006 to 2025. As I reported below, the results were good to very good. I didn't have technical difficulties. My workflow was exporting NEF to PS which opened a nef-file copy in CR. I also successfully used the workflow recommended in this thread i.e. from LR - edit in - open as Smart Object in PS
This week I upgraded to a completely new computer with Windows 11 and I reinstalled my Adobe LR, PS and CR with the same preferences and settings in all 3 tools as previously. I now get corrupt files every time.
I have tried my old workflow and the one recommended in this thread, but in both cases I get a corrupt image.  I've tested the same NEF images on both computers today and have no issues on the old Windows 10 PC but always get a corrupt image in the new PC setup.
Please let me know if I can share more setup details to help you resolve this overall. For now I will boot up my old pc to use this very useful tool.

Participating Frequently
January 18, 2025

I tried it today, am using Olympus / OM digital ORF files, but the checkbox Reflections is greyed out? Does is not work .ORF files yet they are raw files too??

Participant
January 18, 2025

Participant
January 18, 2025

I've found the tool works flawlessly for some images and not others, even when they appear relatively similar otherwise.  Here's one example where it worked well and another where it barely changed the image.

Adobe Employee
January 21, 2025

We have released this as a tech preview and are working to improve it in many ways, including this. Thanks for providing examples. If you're comfortable sharing the RAW files, that would be much appreciated.

Participant
January 21, 2025
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Hope that this helps and works as its a large file.

Tom
Participant
January 17, 2025

Estoy trabajando en un portatil con sistema operativo Windows 10 , Camera Raw me reconoce perfectamente la GPU y dice que es compatible , pero en el momento que realizo la eliminación de reflejos , me salen unas aberraciones ---- he cargado y actualizado el nuevo driver de la targeta , Es un procesador AMD Ryzen 7 4800 H , pero sigue dando el mismo problema. Alguien tiene respuesta?

Ian Lyons
Community Expert
Community Expert
January 17, 2025

Did you look at this thread https://community.adobe.com/t5/camera-raw-discussions/p-technology-preview-reflection-removal-cr/td-p/14963699

 

If not, then please do so as it may contain helpful information. It would also be helpful if you would provide a screesnhot showing the aberrations.

 

Note that I'm changing the title of your thread to include 'Reflection Removal'. Your post may also be merged with above thread.

Participant
January 16, 2025

I'm finding that the remove reflections doesnt work on my Mac  ( OS 15.1.1 ).I am using NEF files and uploading to PS from LR.
Is ther something that I'm  missing please?

John

Participant
January 16, 2025

I was having issues, and I uploaded to my desktop, then i dropped them into PS and it worked for me.  When I tried from LRC to PS it would not work.  

Adobe Employee
January 17, 2025

If you read through this forum, you'll find the answers to many of your questions including this one. From Lightroom Classic, you must open in photoshop *as a smart object*, and then double click the layer in photoshop to open the camera raw tool. 

Participant
January 16, 2025

I have tried to use the reflection removal tool with noise reduction and adaptive preset to no avail. It doesn't matter which order you do them in, but the reflection removal just doesn't work with the other tools.

Adobe Employee
January 16, 2025

Please consider sharing your RAW images to demonstrate.

Participant
January 16, 2025

Not only works great with glass reflections but also it removes chain links obstructions from images. But the best, removes haze caused by out of focus leaves. See images.

Participant
January 16, 2025

Dear Reader, it doesn't work with RAF(Raw from Fuji) files from Fuji and did also not work with the Raw from Apple iPhone 14 Pro, what do I do wrong... I think I did right to set the settings correct, so? I am living in the Netherlands and using the English UI, far more easier because of translation to the Dutch language...Grretz from Guus

Participant
January 16, 2025

i uploaded into PS directly, did not upload fromo LRC, then it worked, that is all I can offer.