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November 5, 2024
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This post applies to Adobe Camera Raw plug-in.

Adobe Camera Raw team is sharing an early look of our new Reflection Removal feature, which removes reflections caused by plate glass surfaces from photos.

Note:

~~The feature currently only works on raw photos.~~ Support for JPEGs & HEICs is added in the April 24 Update.

There is a known issue on some Windows machines where the feature may produce a corrupt image. We are working on a fix for the upcoming release.

Check out HelpX for more detailed usage information. For more technical information on the underlying technology, please refer to this Blog post.

Getting started with the Reflection Removal feature:

Make sure you have the “New AI Features and Settings Panel” Technology Preview enabled in the Camera Raw plug-in Preferences dialog (requires restarting the host application to activate).

Go to the Remove panel [B] , and in the “Distraction Removal” section, click on the “Reflections” checkbox.

Optionally adjust the slider after the ML model is done computing.

Use the rest of the Camera Raw tools just like you would otherwise.

When using the slider, the key values to note are:

0 – the input photo

100 – de-reflected (window reflections removed) photo

-100 – reflection photo (what the window was reflecting towards the camera)

Please try the feature and share feedback in this community forum. It would help to include details like how you access Camera Raw (via Adobe Bridge or Photoshop), your computer system details, and as much information about what you like or do not like about the resulting photo quality. Our team will continually monitor this thread to track issues to improve the future experience.

When to use Reflection Removal

The feature is designed to deal with large-area reflections when shooting through windows. Many other types of reflections occur in nature and are captured in photographs, but this feature may not recognize and handle those. We plan to work on expanding the supported reflection types in the future.

Example use-cases for the feature include:

Looking through windows inside-out (e.g., from the car, airplane, room windows, etc.)

Looking through windows outside-in (e.g., shop windows)

Museums (e.g., paintings behind glass, glass case exhibits, etc.)

How best to use Reflection Removal

For best results, try the new feature following these suggestions:

Apply Reflection Removal before applying any other edits to the photo, except for Enhance features such as Denoise
- The changes made to the photo may be quite profound and render any changes you already made inappropriate.
- If you plan to use both Enhance (Denoise, Super Resolution, or Raw Details) and Reflection Removal on a photo, it is better to apply Enhance first.
Play with the feature slider and adjust the removal strength as appropriate.
If you applied Adobe Adaptive (beta) profile prior to running the Reflection Removal feature, please update it or you may see traces of removed reflections still present in the photo (Adobe Camera Raw will remind you to do this).

Boris Ajdin: Product Manager, Emerging Products Group

Update (01-16-2025)

To improve the performance and results of this feature, it is important that examples of images that are failing to properly remove the reflections are forwarded to the team via your report. A large variety of file formats are allowed as attachments in these forum posts. The best option is to attach your image's raw file directly to your feedback post. Note that there is a 50 MB limit on an attachment's file size. If your raw file is too large to attach, the best option is to share the file via a file-sharing service (Dropbox or similar) and then share the link in your feedback post. Thank you for continuing to provide feedback on this Tech Preview!

If you have already shared your raw file with us - thank you!

~Rikk

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Correct answer Conrad_C

This reply, earlier in this thread, explains why:

https://community.adobe.com/t5/camera-raw-discussions/p-reflection-removal-feedback-cr-amp-lrclassic/m-p/15405349#M28971

Also, it isn’t called “glare reduction.”

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Melankaya

Known Participant

This might have already been addresses but a brush to "remove " the reflction effect in some places would be nice. This could be either for the small part that looks glitchy or for reflections you might want to keep. It could be done in PS by layering the photos and bringing it back, etc but I (and many others) like just staying in Camera Raw.

@ m e l a n k a y a

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Eric29489323q7t4

Adobe Employee

Thanks for your suggestion. We will be continuing to improve the feature. Please stay tuned.

Alex38836824g4yo

Participant

Did not remove the reflection at all.

Alex38836824g4yo

Participant

Well looking closer; bringing the slider down to 0, it thought the reflection was the actual shelves in the store on the right; (backwards).

JohnDG Photography

Known Participant

Normally I use the RAWs from one of my camera's, not always like I wish, but it surely remove some of the reflex.
Now I got this jpg from a smartphone and trying to get the reflex of the train's window. Since the 24 april update supports jpg, I thought "give it a go".
Used "best" 100%, but no result at all. Can try for yourself with this picture (original from the phone). The people you see, the information board, all of it is reflexion as no one was seated in the train.

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marks7722111

Participating Frequently

I used your train photo and the reflection tool (using MacMini M2Pro), and this is the result. It clearly didn't remove all the reflections, but it did help; whether it is more usable is a personal judgment. I moved it to Photoshop and then ran it through the ACR reflection tool again, and there was no further improvement. Why you saw no change at all on your setup is something that I hope the developers can explain.

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Eric29489323q7t4

Adobe Employee

Reflection removal is not currently designed to work on small windows in the distance, as in the photo above. This has been discussed in the blog post, and many times within this forum. The blog post explains that removing such reflections is planned for future releases.

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vas_2092

Participant

Did not work on reflection caused by bus windows

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marks7722111

Participating Frequently

I have been successful at using this new feature. I hope the same for everyone eventually. I had previously used the Reflection removal tool on iPhone 16 DNG Raw photos, and RW2 (Panasonic) raw files. With the latest update, I am quite happy that it also works on iPhone 15 HEIC photos. Sample screenshots of this latest HEIC photo are attached. This is taken in a museum through plexi. Thanks for continuing to improve the feature and resolving the problems for those who have been disappointed.

JohnDG Photography

Known Participant

It does work with my RAWs too, but not with JPGs I recentrly tried.

balanced_knight4563

Participating Frequently

The Remove Reflection Tool in PS does not work for me at all. Since the last update, it is now possible to use HEIC formats, but it does not work – neither with RAW files nor with any other formats. I chatted with Adobe Support yesterday, we deleted some preferences and tried a few things on an other Mac, but they couldn't find a solution either. Specs: PS 26.6.0 on MacPro 2019, AMD Radeon Pro Vega II Duo 32GB

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colmanc45976152

Participating Frequently

Réponse à Balanced-knight4563

J'ai l'impression que Adobe ne sait pas résoudre les problèmes avec les cartes graphiques des Mac.

L'outil de suppression de la réflexion dans Camera RAW ne fonctionne pas du tout chez moi non plus. Alors que tous mes logiciels Adobe sont à jour. Triste nouvelle 😫

Crazyhorse13836980

Known Participant

Generally good result except some missed on a complex background. Pity you dont accept zip as teh

2 layer PSD file with teh reflection removeal result is too big

Crazyhorse13836980

Known Participant

Ps using "best"

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Santillo

Participating Frequently

PS 26.6 - Mac OS 15.4.1 - iMac 2019 5K 27" - Camera Raw 17.3 - I have issue with Remove Reflections tool in ACR - produces colored pixilated image - both RAW and JPG images

Noel Orridge

Community Manager

Hi @Santillo! Thank you for reaching out!

Could you share some more info with us? Is this happening with all JPG or RAW images, or just certain ones? Also, could you share the image you're working on with this tool, just to reproduce the issue on our end (via Google Drive, WeTransfer, or another file-sharing platform)?

Meanwhile, can you verify if the GPU is enabled by checking this out: https://helpx.adobe.com/camera-raw/kb/acr-gpu-faq.html#troubleshoot:~:text=photos%20to%20files.-,Determine%20if%20Camera%20Raw%20is%20accessing%20the%20GPU,-When%20Camera%20Raw. Try turning it off if it's enabled to see if it changes anything.

Hope this helps! Can you mention my username when you reply?

Cheers!

Noel

pittactor

Participant

Looks like it has no effect on .PSD files Can't attach the file. It's too big.

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Nicolas34377164clzn

Participant

The tool is fantastic and works well for the mesh/fences in zoos.
However, I struggle with getting decent results with my iMac (M1 chip): it generates artifacts in the bottom half of the picture.
I attached a before (the raw file with visible fence's diffraction), an after on my Win10 Laptop (everything perfect), and an after on my Mac (not OK).
My config is below. Any chance to fix it? it's a powerful tool that I definitely need a lot, but at the moment, it disrupts the workflow and it's not convenient