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Inspiring
July 28, 2006
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Audio import TOO LOUD

  • July 28, 2006
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This is related but isn't the same as the export problem I have.

I export a WAV from Captivate and clean it up. When I import it back into Captivate, it sets its volume to MAXIMUM, so the resulting audio is clipped and distorted.

Check same file in my audio editor - sounds great - perfect volume.

Check same file with Windows Media Player - sounds great - perfect volume.

In Captivate a soft female voice is YELLING - CLIPPING -DISTORTING -

There is no reason for it. Is there a newer version of Captivate that is out of Beta? My version is:

1.01.1418 Build 1418 (Full version)
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    Participant
    September 4, 2007
    here's what we do:
    1) record in audacity,
    2) do noise reduction and compression to reduce peaks and boost quiet parts.
    3) we don't normalize, instead we amplify -4db's shy of 0 db.
    4) bring the wav's into captivate, click 'adjust volume and click both check boxes (normalize, dynamics)

    then we set the publish settings to FM quality and 22 kHz. We also use a pop screen when recording. Make a BIG difference.
    Captiv8r
    Legend
    September 4, 2007
    Hi Mind Meld

    Quick question for you. Why are you outputting in .WAV format when Audacity is capable of .MP3? I would think that you would see better results for .MP3, because Captivate converts .WAV to .MP3 when you import it. And this could possibly introduce something unwanted.

    Just curious... Rick
    September 4, 2007
    Anyone know if this is still an issue in the NEW Captivate?
    July 25, 2007
    Having simar audio problems.
    Pathetic.
    Participant
    July 6, 2007
    Hi, we have recently purchased Captivate 2, and record our own WAVs from a professional mic into a 3rd party audio app. I was astounded how Captivate ruined our perfect recordings.
    The only way we managed to get round it was to 'normalise' our files first, then apply a -3dB filter over the clip, thereby reducing the the volume of the clip by half.
    This has worked, but I feel I shouldn't have to go through another step of post-processing.

    Thanks, 3Buns.
    April 13, 2007
    I wonder why low quality recordings do not pose a problem for you?

    For this project, all the audio files are simple voiceovers.... one per slide, just a woman talking. I tried the original WAVs as well as various quality MP3s (128kbs, 112, 96, 80, and 64kbs)... and even the low-quality 64kbs audio did this same auto-normalization thing. So that makes it even lower quality and the voice itself gets distorted.

    Now I'm completely stumped... not just about the problem (why low quality "should" work better, but even that won't work for me)... but also why I'm one of very few who have apparently had an issue with this. A search would indicate this does not seem to be a widespread or oft-reported problem.... which baffles me even more why it's so bad on my voice recordings.
    April 13, 2007
    Okay, so it looks like this is just how Captivate does it... unfortunately a pretty nasty flaw that I'm surprised few other people have mentioned.

    The software has nice features like normalizing and dynamic settings for audio, but those are rather futile if the audio you import is automatically ruined by Captivate by default. =(

    This was a screen of the wave form as opened in Sound Forge:

    http://206.132.206.79/public/Captivate2_AudioImport.gif

    (before Captivate jacks it up and creates the "boxed" peaks).

    But I have 73 files (plus more to come) so going in and editing the frequency limits of each one is unfortunately out of the question. That is a good idea, though, for small amounts of audio. It's a shame we need to use a workaround like that.

    Perhaps this could be fixed in a patch? [crosses fingers that the developers are aware of this auto-normalizing that ruins audio quality....]

    Thanks,
    Chris
    Inspiring
    April 13, 2007
    In all reality, I have never had this problem before, and we use low quality recordings (made in the office in a conference room away from other noise) for our voice overs. I havent seen any cut offs like that until importing high quality audio.

    I am sorry to say I doubt if there will be any patches for this, given the amount of time that has gone by since the release of 2.0

    I totally agree with you on the fact that it is pretty sad that the application should not 'ruin' a good audio file like that.



    Inspiring
    April 13, 2007
    I have been playing with higher quality "studio" arrangements of dance music, and importing one of those into Captivate results in the "boxed" off area that you see.
    The high and low end of the spectrum above 2 db is effectively cut out, and the result is a quality of audio that ends up worse than you would expect.

    You may have to use an external editor to adjust the frequency limits used, in turn effecting the peaks and valleys of the wave. (which will lower the quality of the file somewhat. )
    It appears that there is a bit of a tradeoff when working with audio files that are "too" high of quality for Captivate.
    Can you open the file in Audacity or something similar to give a wave form output that shows high and low peaks without the "boxed" peaks?

    Thanks.
    April 13, 2007
    Hi Shnoogins,

    I have tried both WAV and MP3 formats.

    And for these files I hadn't normalized in any program, as I wanted them to just be in their original, unmodified format. Does Captivate typically normalize for you? Is this just "how it is" or can that be changed or avoided?

    Thanks,
    Chris
    Inspiring
    April 13, 2007
    Hi cwaz,

    Weclome!

    What format are your audio files in prior to import?

    Are you "normalizing" the volume inside or outside of captivate (it appears that captivate may be normalizing for you)?
    April 13, 2007
    I see this never got a reply but came across it searching for the EXACT same problem.

    I have a batch of professional-quality voiceover audio files, all set to the proper volume and good quality. But as soon as I import it into Captivate 2, it becomes loud and distorted.

    As the previous poster said, looking at the wave forms, all the peaks are suddenly at 100% in Captivate... the peaks are at max, chopped flat at the top, causing distortion and clipping. I can go in and reduce the volume, but that blasted waveform and distorted sound is still there, just quieter.

    Here's a screenshot of what Captivate is doing to my audio:

    http://206.132.206.79/public/Captivate2_AudioImport.gif

    Can this be avoided in any way? Or does Captivate do this to all audio? I hope it's not the latter, as that severely hurts my project's professionally-recorded audio.

    Any help would be great. Thank you!