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ActusxReus
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June 26, 2009
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Captivate 4/SCORM/LMS

  • June 26, 2009
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Adobe E-Learning Suite CS4 w/

Captivate 4

Flash CS4

etc...

I'm pretty sure everyone looking at that subject is sighing and rolling the eyes. lol.

In any event I really need some help, as soon as possible.

Let's go with that I have NO experience with SCORM compliance or LMS.

I had created a Software Simulation CBT, basically used for employees to learn how to use an application that my client uses.

I had originally done this all in one, and it ended up being around 150 slided.

The opening slide has a 16 second Flash produce introduction with 16 second audio.

Only other audio is produced from clicking the "Next" button

Only other Flash is from FMR demonstrating the software (very minimal)

It seemed that publishing such a large file produced very inconsistant files - sometimes very buggy in sections - back button not working properly, getting stuck on quiz slides, etc.

So I broke up the large file in 8 separate files. Intro, Modules 1 - 6, Conclusion.

Now... Here comes my next problem. I set up all the SCORM/Quiz reporting.  Each of the modules has a quiz associated with it for reporting. Intro and Conclusion have reporting on the last "NEXT" button.

What I am asked from our client, is that the employee will log onto the LMS - click on the Course Name - and it will launch the intro.  Now to the user, the rest of the course should be seamless.  It's for the most part (except for one section in Module 1) completely linear.  When the user gets to the last slide of the Intro section, when they click next it should go to the first slide of Module 1.  It should have the built in TOC that I built in the flash files.  I did all the SCORM 2004 reporting options, manifest file, etc.  I used the SCORM Packager provided (the aggregator) and sucessfully created a .ZIP to upload to the LMS.

I downloaded Moodle, full package, to use as a sandbox LMS on my local system.

When I upload the .zip file produced from the SCORM packager, and run it in the LMS the TOC does not show all of the modules.

Also, when I get to the last slide of Intro and click "NEXT" it just goes to a blank screen.

How do I make this a seamless transaction with proper LMS reporting - which is NOT pass/fail it's just completion.

Anybody still reading yet??

Please let me know if you need anymore information, it's very vital that I get this figured out by this weekend as our client is requesting a final product by Monday/Tuesday.  I really really appreciate any help that can be provided, thank you all very much in advance.

I fear I may be in over my head here...  which is not an option.

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AnnemarieRebel
Participating Frequently
June 29, 2009

Hi there...

Thanks for your reply on my post.

You might want to try a different scorm testing site, the one I use often is this one: http://www.scorm.com/scorm-solved/testtrack/ and it has worked really well for me. I have not worked with big files like yourself, so not sure of any other assistance.

Best regards

Annemarie

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www_cpguru_com
Inspiring
June 26, 2009

Is your client actually using Moodle?

I know a lot of people are really hype about the Moodle LMS, but to me it seems like it's nothing but trouble ;o)

If you client isn't using Moodle then try and upload a course on another LMS. Try a "real" paid LMS like for example Inquisiq EX, which offers a 30 day free trial.

Depending on how you published your course (SCORM 1.2 or SCORM 2004) you could try and republish it using the other protocol.

/Michael

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ActusxReusAuthor
Known Participant
June 26, 2009

That doesn't really seem to be the issue, but again I'm just guessing at this point.
However, I did think of somethign this morning on my way into work.

Wanted some feedback from the community regarding help on my first post in this thread, as well as this possible solution.

What if I created a shell Captivate File - it would contain my Intro slides (6 of them) my conclusion slides (3 of them) and then 6 slides in between, each slide would load a different module.  So essentially in this example, when slide 7 came up it would on enter load Module 1 - which would be a published, .swf file. 

This way, upon publishing the SHELL file, it will still keep it all SCORM compliant - reporting, I'm hoping would still be enacted, is this even a possibility?

The one thing I noticed is that with the aggregator - if you bring together multiple SWF files and publish, it publishes an overall .SWF file that loads each of the separate ones.  However, if you do this with SCO packages, it doesn't create that "Overall" htm/swf file.  This is where I'm running into issues.

If each SCO is SCORM compliant, and as capitvate does upon loading, the way I currently have it set up (as outlined in my first post here) when the user goes from module to module it will keep saying "LMS Initializing" and then load the module - I don't want this, I need a seamless transition - so the user doesn't see all the separate modules upfront - they only click on one link within the LMS that loads all these separate modules as one (1 hour long) course.  The reason I'm TRYING to get away from 1 large 150 slide file is that Captivate seems to have issues when publishing such a large file, it seems to get pretty buggy down the line, and sometimes starts crashing on different systems (as I've noticed during our current testing phase).

Does anyone know what I'm talking about? I'm racking my brain for a solution here.  

Someone step forth and point me in the right direction with this, and lend me a hand please.

W
www_cpguru_com
Inspiring
June 26, 2009

The thing about Moodle is that a lot of people are having issues with Captivate and Moodle. I don't know if it is a Captivate problem or a Moodle problem but it is a problem ;o)

Another user was having a problem with a test project created in CP4 and uploaded in Moodle. It doesn't report anything to the LMS. If I take that exact same SCORM package from Captivate and load it into my company LMS then it works perfectly well. That's why I suggested that you try another LMS than Moodle.

I tried Moodle once and didn't like it - in my view it was to buggy. I used Dokeos and Efront in a couple of projects and they worked fine with Captivate for me.

As for having a shell Captivate file loading the other SCORM compliant modules I highly doubt that would work. You would only be able to have the SCORM reporting enabled on the shell file because in the imsmanifest you would basically just have one SCO. This SCO you would be able to run reporting on, but the modules that are loaded into this SCO wouldnt be able to report anything I think. If they did then they would all report the same things to the LMS about the single SCO you have.

It seems like you have at least some idea of SCORM and SCO's so perhaps you should take a different approach - It's a bit more technical, but it works.

Instead of letting Captivate publish your SCORM package then build it yourself. The SCORM communication through the LMS can be taken care off by letting Captivate send the relevant Javascript commands. This the way I always do it and it's never failed in any LMS. You can download a free SCORM packager here: http://www.reload.ac.uk/ and then you can download the SCORM documentation and APIwrapper.js from here: http://www.adlnet.gov

/Michael

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