Lms reporting success status=pass/fail, where it should give unknown while running on saba 5.3

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April 9, 2012
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I am trying to run my content on SABA 5.3 , After exiting the content the lms displays success status as Pass or Fail where it should show Unknown. My content does not contain any quiz, so on which basis lms is calculating the success status.

Quizzing and LMS

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Atlantic Bruce

Participating Frequently

I'm a bit late to join this discussion, but this is an area that's puzzled me.

Why can't you have a lesson that has been launched and then aborted before encountering an evaluation and have cmi.completion_status = Incomplete and cmi.success_status= Unknown

It seems that in the SCORM 2004 Sequence Navigation standards the "Objective Rollup Process" defines that cmi.success status is only "unknown" until the lesson is launched and then an Objective must be set. If you don't set an objective (because there's no evaluation), then the status must be "failed". I don't like this rule as clients have a tendancy to think that "Success" = Failed = bad.

Erik Lord

Inspiring

You can...it depends on how your LMS is setup to respond. The LMS we use (Inquisiq) will report each status...so if you just set 'completion' to 'Incomplete' and don't set 'success', then 'success will be reported as 'unknown'.

Some LMS products however do seem to 'rollup' the responses and show whatever was set in an overall 'status' field, ignoring what was not.

On the other hand, I was not aware there was some 'objective' requirement related to either status. Are you sure about that?

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Atlantic Bruce

Participating Frequently

Joe Donnelly at Scorm.com has just pointed us in the right direction in that we were missing some rollup rules in the manifest to prevent a default Failed status:

<imsss:sequencing>

<imsss:rollupRules rollupObjectiveSatisfied="true" rollupProgressCompletion="true">

<imsss:rollupRule childActivitySet="all">

<imsss:rollupConditions conditionCombination="all">

<imsss:rollupCondition condition="satisfied" operator="noOp"></imsss:rollupCondition>

</imsss:rollupConditions>

<imsss:rollupAction action="satisfied"></imsss:rollupAction>

</imsss:rollupRule>

</imsss:rollupRules>

</imsss:sequencing>

Now our lessons correctly report Success as "Incomplete" until success is achieved and they report Success as "passed"