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June 19, 2015
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Quiz Penalty Points in Captivate 8

  • June 19, 2015
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I am trying to set up a quiz with some multiple choice questions, but being new to Captivate am having some issues.  I plan to export to SCORM and upload to Moodle.  I am converting this quiz from a Moodle quiz and option 1 below is the functionality I have with Moodle.

The multiple choice questions are the usual 4 optional supplied answers to choose from.  I have tried to set up the following:

1.  I assign 3 points to the question with 1 penalty point and I give the student 3 attempts at the question.  So if the student gets it right first time, they get all 3 points.  On the second attempt (1 penalty point for the incorrect first attempt) - they get 2 points if they get it right.  For the thrid (2 penalty points) if they get it right they get 1 point.  However this doesn't seem to be how the points/penalty points in Captivate works - or at least I don't seem to be able to get it to work this way.  Another issue is that I must use SCORM 2004 since penalty points are not supported in SCORM 1.2 (Moodle is supposed to be compatible with 1.2 and NOT 2004 - although I have tried a 20004 SCORM module on our system and it seemed to work).

2.  I assign 4 points to the question.  If the student gets it wrong I branch to a second question worth only 2 points.  If they get it wrong a second time, the quiz just moves on to the next question. 

I should mention also that eventually each question in the quiz is a random question.  The pool of questions will contain multiple choice, true/false and fill-in-the-blank.  I will have different penalty policies for each one (one attempt for true/false for example, 25% penalty for fill-in-the-blank, 4 attempts).

Does anyone know if either of my scenarios above can be done with Captivate?  Also I find I learn best from examples.  Are there examples of quizzes with penalty points available for download somewhere?

Thanks for any help/suggestions with any of the above.

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Lilybiri
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June 19, 2015

No, that is certainly not the way penalty points work (not even in the real world, and I have been asking MCQ since I became a college professor, long time before online assessments). Penalty points are attributed to wrong answers, not to second/third attempts. Examples:

T/F with a score of 3 points and penalty of 1point:  if answers is correct, score will be 3 points, if incorrect score is -1pt

MCQ with 2 correct answers and 3 incorrect answers. You can attribute a score to each answer if you want some weight.

  • correct 1 = 5 points
  • correct 2 = 3 points
  • incorrect 3 penalty of 2 points, which means score = -2points
  • incorrect 4 penalty of 1 point
  • incorrect 5 penalty of 1 point

This MCQ will have a maximum score of 8 points, and a total penalty of 4 points. If all answers are marked by the student, result will be 4 points (5 + 3 - 2 - 1 - 1).

If you want to link attempts to a score, you cannot do it with default question slides, you have to create custom question slides. But reporting to a LMS will be a lot more difficult. And custom questions can never be in a question pool.

Link score to attempts in Custom questions - Captivate blog

BTW: you say that you are new to Captivate but post this (basic Quiz question) in the Advanced forum?)

hchesser1Author
Participant
June 19, 2015

Thanks for the fast response.  I had been trying something vaguely along the lines of what is described in the blog that you reference, but the solution presented seems pretty advanced/involved and as you say can't be integrated into a question pool.

Yep I'm new to Captivate (not new to LMS's or teaching), but after quickly perusing the topics on this forum figured this was the best place.  Apologies if this is not the right place.  Which forum would you have recommended?

Unless someone else has some advice here, I guess I will either go back to Moodle or re-think the quiz to make it work in Captivate.  This penalty point/multiple attempts business seemed the best way to award part marks for a multiple-choice question, but maybe it just invites random guessing so perhaps the pedagogy is off...

Lilybiri
Legend
June 20, 2015

There is a Quiz forum, this is typical about quizzes, right? I find it strange, since you are not new to teaching, that you had a different concept of penalty for MCQ?

I used penalty a lot of times, because it is just preventing random guessing (which is mostly done by male students, less by female, just FYI). Like I explained in the example, you have to reflect on the exact number of the score/penalty for individual answers. My second example was not a good one, because marking everything resulted still in a positive score, it should have resulted in a score =0. As a teacher you know probably that creating a proper MCQ is not a simple job, much underestimated.

I totally agree that decrementing the score with attempts could be another approach. But the SCORM rules are pretty rigid.