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Anonymous
September 13, 2006
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Coldfusion vs ASP .Net PHP etc.

  • September 13, 2006
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A higher-up asked me about the future of ColdFusion and it's strengths and weaknesses compared to .net, php, etc. I haven't been able to find any resources on the internet that compare the different technologies in a way that a non-techie would understand. Any suggestions?
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    Newsgroup_User
    Inspiring
    September 24, 2006
    >> Niggling about whether CF can provide everything for everyone in the
    development business shows a lack of insight as to what it takes to succeed.

    fair comment.

    "Karen_Little" <karen@littleviews.com> wrote in message
    news:ef5u34$jkh$1@forums.macromedia.com...
    > oooooh, knock it off already. Would it be that every single website posted
    > attracted godzillion visitors.
    >
    > But do developers need all the power they can get? Consider the ultimate
    > in
    > crappy websites, Craigslist, that is raking in much, much cash...
    >
    > Niggling about whether CF can provide everything for everyone in the
    > development business shows a lack of insight as to what it takes to
    > succeed.
    > Success follows the imaginative use of technology (humble or great), and
    > not
    > the technology itself.
    >


    Karen_Little
    Karen_Little
    Inspiring
    September 24, 2006
    oooooh, knock it off already. Would it be that every single website posted attracted godzillion visitors.

    But do developers need all the power they can get? Consider the ultimate in crappy websites, Craigslist, that is raking in much, much cash...

    Niggling about whether CF can provide everything for everyone in the development business shows a lack of insight as to what it takes to succeed. Success follows the imaginative use of technology (humble or great), and not the technology itself.
    Karen_Little
    Karen_Little
    Inspiring
    September 24, 2006
    oooooh, knock it off already. Would it be that every single website posted attracted godzillion visitors.

    But do developers need all the power they can get? Consider the ultimate in crappy websites, Craigslist, that is raking in much, much cash...

    Niggling about whether CF can provide everything for everyone in the development business shows a lack of insight as to what it takes to succeed. Success follows the imaginative use of technology (humble or great), and not the technology itself.
    N
    Newsgroup_User
    Inspiring
    September 22, 2006
    Well observed, for one guy to pretend to be16 people for so long as you say
    would be nearly impossible. (Not to mention pointless)



    "tclaremont" <webforumsuser@macromedia.com> wrote in message
    news:eeu4em$325$1@forums.macromedia.com...
    >I have a sticky note next to my computer with each of the names. I am
    >literally
    > up to 16. No kiddin!
    >
    > Uncovering the HostMySite truth was a hoot! Thanks for reminding me,
    > Iceborer!
    >
    > And as far as Andy's statement:
    >
    > I think the idea that all the "negative" stuff is the work of 16 aliases
    > serves only to show how deluded some cf folk can be.
    >
    > I could not agree more! You would have to be deluded to conjur up 16
    > aliases
    > and spout the same drivel for this long of a period!
    >


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    Anonymous
    September 22, 2006
    quote:
    Originally posted by: Newsgroup User
    Well observed, for one guy to pretend to be16 people for so long as you say
    would be nearly impossible. (Not to mention pointless)


    Why would that be nearly impossible? It would be pretty easy to do, after all, you're doing it.

    You are quite the strange person. Why do you care if people use Coldfusion or not? What's it to you? It's pretty sad seeing your obvious routines showing up time and time again on these forums. First, you pose as an innocent bystander asking an innocent question--and it's always the same question. What platform should I use? Then you and your million personas weigh in.

    Do you realize how sad and pathetic that is? That you have to invent people to back you up? Do you have imaginary friends? Do you have pretend tea parties for them?

    As for Myspace.com, that is the worst performing site ever. Every other click it seems results in an error. Was it designed poorly? Is it a Coldfusion problem? Soundclick, another CF site, is almost as bad.

    Here in DC, there are a lot of non profits that use CF. I think it was a natural move for them. Mid size non profits going from a static site to a dynamic one. They hire an outside vendor to develop it and then their own webmaster can maintain/update it. This whole argument whether CF is dying or not is pointless. Who cares? There's always going to be something new to learn.
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    taylortrusty
    Participant
    September 24, 2006
    quote:
    Originally posted by: Steven

    As for Myspace.com, that is the worst performing site ever. Every other click it seems results in an error. Was it designed poorly? Is it a Coldfusion problem? Soundclick, another CF site, is almost as bad.


    Myspace was originally written in ColdFusion but most of it has since been rewritten in .NET and had the existing URL's remapped . The remaining bits that are still CF code are handled by BlueDragon as stated earlier.

    Myspace grew much faster than anyone's wildest expectations. I'm not surprised the site performs terribly.
    N
    Newsgroup_User
    Inspiring
    September 22, 2006
    >> I could not agree more! You would have to be deluded to conjur up 16
    aliases
    and spout the same drivel for this long of a period!

    Not targeting you specifically - but I have seen a number of posts where teh
    minute anyone says anything at all negative abouit coldfusion a guy puts in
    a post for teh other newbies to read that says something to teh effect -
    "ignore these people speaking negatively, its all just one guy using lots of
    aliases to say bad stuff about cf adn he ahs been doing it for years"

    Now, hardly believable and makes those claiming it look very desperate to
    come up with legitamate rebuttals to to issues with coldfusion. Certainly,
    each time I see the "multiple alias" argument to a cf issue, I know the
    issue must be genuine.


    "tclaremont" <webforumsuser@macromedia.com> wrote in message
    news:eeu4em$325$1@forums.macromedia.com...
    > I have a sticky note next to my computer with each of the names. I am
    literally
    > up to 16. No kiddin!
    >
    > Uncovering the HostMySite truth was a hoot! Thanks for reminding me,
    Iceborer!
    >
    > And as far as Andy's statement:
    >
    > I think the idea that all the "negative" stuff is the work of 16 aliases
    > serves only to show how deluded some cf folk can be.
    >
    > I could not agree more! You would have to be deluded to conjur up 16
    aliases
    > and spout the same drivel for this long of a period!
    >


    tclaremont
    tclaremont
    Inspiring
    September 21, 2006
    I have a sticky note next to my computer with each of the names. I am literally up to 16. No kiddin!

    Uncovering the HostMySite truth was a hoot! Thanks for reminding me, Iceborer!

    And as far as Andy's statement:

    I think the idea that all the "negative" stuff is the work of 16 aliases
    serves only to show how deluded some cf folk can be.

    I could not agree more! You would have to be deluded to conjur up 16 aliases and spout the same drivel for this long of a period!
    tclaremont
    tclaremont
    Inspiring
    September 20, 2006
    This kind of attitude?

    Using as many as 16 aliases over the last couple years to make the same arguments AGAINST CF on a support board FOR CF reveals a superior attitude on YOUR part?

    CF is not the development platform FOR YOU. We get it already.
    A
    Anonymous
    September 20, 2006
    Sigh. Tried to warn everyone, but they fed the troll anyway. If the only folks feeding Andy's narcissism are his other personalities, he soon moves on.

    To paraphrase:
    "All that is necessary for trolls to triumph is for good forum members to respond."
    N
    Newsgroup_User
    Inspiring
    September 20, 2006
    If you disagree, then it must be FUD.

    I gotta say, this kind of attitude actually doesn't help anyone. CF
    developers seem way less passionate than other developers about promoting
    their chosen platform which is probabaly why MM/Adobe have to the smalleset
    amount possible to keep you happy.

    "JPfeff" <webforumsuser@macromedia.com> wrote in message
    news:eep4oi$n3e$1@forums.macromedia.com...
    > Wow, the amount of FUD being piled on here is setting new records!


    J
    JPfeff
    Known Participant
    September 19, 2006
    Wow, the amount of FUD being piled on here is setting new records!
    Karen_Little
    Karen_Little
    Inspiring
    September 19, 2006
    Like with Photoshop and Illustrator, it would be smart for Adobe concentrate on IDEs.

    Also, they could sell routine packages that handle placement of images on the web through the web. And I can think of other things, too.
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