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June 22, 2006
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Future of Coldfusion?

  • June 22, 2006
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hmmm... anybody knows whats the future of Coldfusion, now thats its under Adobe? Where can i find out more info? Thanks
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    Correct answer Damon_Cooper
    Hey guys, sorry I'm coming to this thread late. WRT the future of ColdFusion, we're doing some great and exciting things on the ColdFusion team I think you'll love.

    We just released the ColdFusioin "Mystic" release, that went out simultaneously with Flex 2, first off. It's version numbered "7.0.2", but don't let the small digits fool you. There is a massive investment in 7.0.2, including new adapters, gateways, a completely revamped reporting engine and ReportBuilder, built-in support for Flex FDS (and push/pull, publish/subcribe messaging), support for the new Flash Remoting AMF3 protocol, updated patches and latest security fixes and (in FlexBuilder 2), a complete set of amazing plugins that make FlexBuilder (and/or Eclipse in general) a massively productive environment for CF developers (especially if you're doing Flex 2 development).

    There's even a wizard that'll generate a multi-tier MVC, async, best practice, secured Flex 2 application and ColdFusion backend DAO CFCs, (and it even sets up your FlexBuilder 2 project for you automatically)!

    Simultanously, however, we've been working on the next major release of ColdFusion, code-named "Scorpio" (likely ColdFusion 8), and we're well into development of this new release. We have soe amazing stuff in this release, as well as some stuff you probably expect, now that the ColdFusion team gets access to the various Adobe internal code libraries, etc :)

    ColdFusion has done amazing from a business prespective, expecially since the release of ColdFusion 7, and we're located in the "Enterprise and Developer Business Unit", at the top level, alongside Flex and LiveCycle product lines.

    In short, we're rockin and have all the support we could ask for at the highest levels of the company, and we're well positioned to change the world (again!) with ColdFusion 8.

    Damon Cooper
    Director of Engineering, ColdFusion
    Adobe

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    Newsgroup_User
    Inspiring
    June 26, 2006
    >> Most reasonable
    programmers won't debate that it is somewhat of a niche language (too
    expensive),

    Yes, it is rather a niche product, far from mainstream thats for sure. But
    the thing that worries me is that it is it is not even a "main focus"
    product for Adobe. The other thing is that Adobe simply are not recognised
    as being a company you would buy server software from.

    I think cf has a future, but not as a mainstream product. I think that, same
    as now, it will remain largely overlooked by the majority of
    developers/organisations. Even so, this will likley leave a large enough
    number of developers using it to see that it stays around a while.

    Expense aside (as many companies seem happy to pay far more for app
    servers,j2ee variety, than they would for cf ) I belive the simplicity
    advantage was what cf had going for it. But with laguages/frameworks like
    Ruby On Rails being far easier than cfml, and with IDE's like V2005 which
    drastically reducing the amount of code neede to write to produce wroking
    web apps, I think the potential is there for the cf to become more and more
    irrelavant as time goes by. At this point, I doubt Adobe are going to
    provide a professsional IDE for cf developers, and this will surely see to
    it that cf will be taken not so seriously by your average web developer - I
    think for a commercial product, this omission has given many organisations
    reason to worry about the level of comittment behind cf.

    "jfillman" <webforumsuser@macromedia.com> wrote in message
    news:e7le97$rc2$1@forums.macromedia.com...
    > Considering how amazing Flex 2.0 looks and how much work they have put in
    > to
    > integrate Flex 2.0 very closely with ColdFusion (the ColdFusion wizard is
    > simply amazing), it seems unlikely to be going away soon. Most reasonable
    > programmers won't debate that it is somewhat of a niche language (too
    > expensive), especially when PHP is free, but it's integration abilities
    > with
    > emerging and mature Adobe products (Flex 2.0, LiveCycle, Contribute,
    > Captivate,
    > etc.) should be a good indicator.
    >


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    Anonymous
    June 26, 2006
    Straw Man created
    Andy tilting at the windmills
    Present some facts, please

    Will we run out of horrible haiku or ridiculous anti-CF (non)arguments first?
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    jfillman
    Inspiring
    June 25, 2006
    Considering how amazing Flex 2.0 looks and how much work they have put in to integrate Flex 2.0 very closely with ColdFusion (the ColdFusion wizard is simply amazing), it seems unlikely to be going away soon. Most reasonable programmers won't debate that it is somewhat of a niche language (too expensive), especially when PHP is free, but it's integration abilities with emerging and mature Adobe products (Flex 2.0, LiveCycle, Contribute, Captivate, etc.) should be a good indicator.
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    Newsgroup_User
    Inspiring
    June 23, 2006
    >>hmmm... anybody knows whats the future of Coldfusion, now thats its under
    Adobe?

    nobody knows for sure. I personally doubt they can raise it's visibility
    much more than Macromedia did , so it will likley remain a product that is,
    relative to the main technologies in this area, infrequently used.

    If Adobe create an IDE for it (not dreamweaver, an actual IDE) and if they
    do something to promote the adoption and installation of cf in hosted
    environments, they might just be in with a chance of saving CF. Otherwise, I
    expect it will remain a rather niche product, overlooked by the majority of
    web developers.

    pure speculation in my part, of course.

    "Michael Wolf" <webforumsuser@macromedia.com> wrote in message
    news:e7ec9s$3ma$1@forums.macromedia.com...
    > hmmm... anybody knows whats the future of Coldfusion, now thats its under
    Adobe? Where can i find out more info? Thanks


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    Anonymous
    June 23, 2006
    The troll arisen
    FUD spreads through an alias
    Andy, telling tales
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