Adobe is the worst thing to ever happen to Dreamweaver

Personally... I think DW CC is poorly made.

I appreciate the Adobe tries to make life easier with auto completed code. But sometimes it's a pain.

The new code editor is sluggish.

Some dialog boxes are too narrow and covers text/buttons. They are supposed to be Modal boxed with un-sizable borders... But, I can resize the boxes.

If I open 10 or more pages... then I have to wait 3-5 minutes for all the code to load and display.

They removed the "Replace" button when you want to do a find/replace for Current Document. I used to be able to decide to replace 1-by-1, but now I have to use "Replace All"

I could go on and on about the poor quality of DW.

Their effort are just poor programming skills.

I would like to ask....

Why can't DW be a stable, robust programmers IDE for websites, for those who rather code by hand?

And MUSE be for designers?? We really could have two versions... is that so hard to ask?

It's funny... After Effect, PremierePro, Audition, Acrobat, Illustrator, PhotoShop are fairly stable.

So, why can't they just fix DW and make is as good as the above apps.

Or, at least hire some real web developer minded programmers.

Come on Adobe, get your act together.

In the mean time... looking to replace DW with a real IDE.

If I want a WYSWYG editor, I would use Mobilize.. beats Muse hands down.

I think the first thing that needs to be understood is the space in which Dreamweaver was meant to be in, the mid level designer/developer. It was never a tool that hard core professional developers would use nor should it have been. With that being said I agree that Dreamweaver has gone backwards in quality, features and functions, a space that they once owned. To me at least it seems as the product managers for dreamweaver are just designers at heart. They appear to not really understand what the product needs really are,  and only listen in terms of features and functionality when there is an uproar (Date Binding. Server Behaviors etc) .

I understand that I am not a professional coder per say but with the proper tools that older versions of Dreamweaver had I could reduce development cost of sites by handling basic list and form needs in php and pull in the professional coder when required for more complicated coding.

Heres what I want Adobe to do - LISTEN to those that use it and have for years, stop trying to TELL us what we need. Yes design is important and responsiveness is where its at in terms of design. But a pretty layout means nothing if the backside is not truly functional.

I want to be able to create a 25 field form that can insert, update and delete in less than 10 minutes, I want to create  lists that are sortable, and searchable that total columns in the same amount of time like I was able to do before. I go back to DW 8 now still  because it can do all that, WHY ? Because it saves me time. I can make it look pretty afterwards.

Before everyone jumps down my back here keep in mind while using DW 8 I was able to create a site that now produces over a million in sales annually. And I am NOT a coder. I do consider myself smart enough to develop the right workflow and understand what coding I can and can not do. My point is DW was an important tool in this, but right now it is an encumberance.

So Adobe please start to LISTEN again.

CC is not SaaS. Many people think it is: that's Adobe's fault for using "Cloud" in the name because it seemed hip and trendy. Has put so many potential customers off.

wwwebconcepts  wrote At this point you're as well off using any number of free IDEs from VS Express to Webmatrix to Netbeans to Eclipse to Notepad++.. Adobe's Dreamweaver is on overpriced shadow of itself. I miss Macromedia.

Or even use a cheaper one. I use Web Storm, it costs me about £70 a year for the first year of use and is far advanced of where Dreamweaver is right now, has nice mysql database management integration so you dont even have to leave the coding environment. Is second to none at alerting you to code errors which will improve your coding skills within a few days of using it, brilliant find and replace features and refactoring coding features. The price drops if I continue to use it for the second and 3 years and then stabilises at the 3rd year price.

I used Dreamweaver for more years than I care to remember but I think I outgrew it as it kind of either paddled in the water or even went backwards.

Ultimateley Dreamweaver in my opinion is for non-coders given its high dependency on 3rd party extensions and in that respect its still  a good product but has you by the short and curlies because of the fact you can't code Adobe can charge what it likes, take it or leave it. There is no other editor out there which can compete with  its visual design representation, even I admit that can be useful, not for doing any deisgn or construction work, but hell it makes it lightening fast when trying to get around the code of your page as its much easier to see where elements are visually, click into them and switch to code view and youre at the point you need to be, meanwhile in other IDE's youre left either traversing the dom structure or scrolling mentally up and down the code to find where you need to be. To make things worse all color coding in every single IDE that I have tried is basically useless as the code ends up all looking the same. The <script></script> tags look the same as The <form></form> tags and the sql queries look the same as ever thing else, etc etc you get the picture. DW did have an excellent color coding enviromment up until CC2017, now its much the same as any other IDE, useless on that front. It's essential to fast coding that you can designate specific colors to specifc tags, can't be done beyond a certain point.

I havent ruled out a return to DW simply for the visual environment angle. If it wasnt for that it would be dead in the water by now. Even though not having that visual environment availble in the current IDE Im using the other nice features at the moment keep me away from coming back to DW. It's trying to integrate things like git into it now which for the people its aimed at is a waste of time. It should be concentrating on getting the basics right first, build a solid platform again, then move on . At the moment its all over the shop in my opinion.

wwwebconcepts  ha scritto Adobe is the worst thing to ever happen to Dreamweaver. it is now no more powerful an IDE than front page was 20 years ago.

+1

I was not going to bother with replying to this, but then I thought why not.

It was not Adobe that ruined Dw, but some of its users. Dw tried to do everything and has ended up doing nothing, if you read many of the posts complaining about Dw 50% of them are email newsletter complaints, 30% are lack of knowledge about how the internet works, and only the remaining 20% are actually interesting ang genuine questions, but often complaints about Dw.

Dw was never and never will be an ide, it never had and never will have many of the features required for front or back end development. Even your complaint about .net is not valid, as it was Microsofts inability to supply the updated code for inclussion in Dw that forced Dw to drop support, as it was decided that no support was better than outdated support.

I will agree that Dw is not as good as it use to be, but that it because many users want point and click, or 'quick fix' web sites. It may be trying to catch up, but until those who think web development should only be done how they think, (only use frameworks and pre/post-processors) are no longer the ones making the decisions it will remain stuck in the, 'only for none coder' category. It is a program that could be resonable, (never good) but not until its users and decision makers learn how to code to modern standards...

It's not going to happen.

Muse, will take over at some point, and Adobe is right to concentrate its efforts on that program. Why would anyone use Dw if all it can do is copy Muse?