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September 29, 2018
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complaint driven development

  • September 29, 2018
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On a lost Saturday morning, awaiting my team's participation in the grand final, I came across this article Complaint-Driven Development

The reason I am sharing this with you is because I have been involved in a successful program that has echoed the exact same procedure mentioned in the article. Maybe Adobe, specifically the Dreamweaver team, could learn from it.

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      pziecina
      pziecina
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      October 5, 2018

      Quite honestly I do not know what we are discussing in this discussion anymore?

      Given that the next version of Dw will probably be released in 13-14 days time, and Ben is asking the Dw team to consider 'complaint driven development', it does not look good for what they are going to present us with, as the next evolution in Dw's development.

      I do notice though, that no one has talked about what features are missing in Pingrow or Wappler that Dw has. Does this mean that everyone no longer takes Dw seriously or thinks it no longer has any unique features?

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      osgood_
      Legend
      October 5, 2018

      What unique features does DW have in it that you consider are worth mentioning and would be beneficial to the users of Pinegrow or Wappler?

      pziecina
      pziecina
      Legend
      October 5, 2018

      osgood_  wrote

      What unique features does DW have in it that you consider are worth mentioning and would be beneficial to the users of Pinegrow or Wappler?

      I don't know, I have not used Wappler since it was released to the public, and Pinegrow I have only used the trial to see how they implemented css grids. Both failed completely in matching my requirerments, but I was looking at both from what a coder may find helpfull. That said I find nothing in Dw worth using, even if it wad an open source projects, let alone as a paid for program.

      pziecina
      pziecina
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      September 29, 2018

      BenPleysier  wrote

      On a lost Saturday morning, awaiting my team's participation in the grand final, I came across this article Complaint-Driven Development

      The reason I am sharing this with you is because I have been involved in a successful program that has echoed the exact same procedure mentioned in the article. Maybe Adobe, specifically the Dreamweaver team, could learn from it.

      Thank you for posting this Ben, though I would call such development 'end user engagement'.

      I have worked using 'end user engagment' since 2002, and I suspect you are refering to Wappler for your involvment with such a process. One could call the pre-release and cab programs 'end user engagement' but when the feedback is only one way it is called 'ignorance' on the part of those not engaging.

      As you know I gave up all involvment with Adobe, (except in this forum) at the beginning of this year, simply because I could not support Adobes policys, (not just what acp's can do, but with regards to web developers). It is no good supporting Adobe or Dw when it is obvious that both are not up to or interested in the task of web developments requirerments. When Dw's driving force is aimed at casual users, and beginners, (or newsletter creation) professionals are forgotten.

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        osgood_
        Legend
        September 29, 2018

        When a company becomes too big they stop listening and start only concentrating on profit to feed the greedy CEOs/shareholders pockets. They think they are always right....how can they not be........thats why they became big.

        As much as l think the program you sre talking about is poor in terms of professional web development workflows l cant deny the team behind it are bending over backwards to listen to its users so l tip my hat to them on that front.............but will it last or is this just a show of concern for a new product which needs new users, only time will tell.

        On a lighter note has no one on the forum at this program you speak of heard of srcset.....why is that bloke trying to serve different images for different devices using js  embedded in the html code...........thats why these automated programs breed poor website builders

          BenPleysier
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          September 29, 2018

          osgood_  wrote

          On a lighter note has no one on the forum at this program you speak of heard of srcset.....why is that bloke trying to serve different images for different devices using js  embedded in the html code...........thats why these automated programs breed poor website builders

          Not the fault of the program or the Team. Have a look at https://www.dmxzone.com/go/22374/better-responsive-images-with-the-picture-element/ and

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