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Orchids-World
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May 4, 2017
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Subscription Costs

  • May 4, 2017
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When I subscribed Dreamweaver a year ago, the subscription was around $22.00, it increased to around $26.00 and now gain it is going to increase to over $28.00. For me, with exchange rates added, it will cost over $30.00 every month.

That sounds good if you use Dreamweaver every day, but I only use the application for about 20 minutes a month. Taking into account that I am just a pensioner with no regular income other then my pension and my website "Orchids-World.com" is Non Profit Site, I believe it is a bit too much.

I could use another similar program; however, I am using Dreamweaver for over 15 years and I am used to it. Maybe I maintain bad habits of yesteryear, but I think Adobe could easily effort to maintain a reasonable price for aged people like myself. It is sad to think, that due to lack of options, I have no choice but to look for alternatives.

It is sad.

George

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    Correct answer Nancy OShea

    Download Brackets.  It's free.  And the code engine is the very same one Dreamweaver uses.  You will need to get an FTP extension for Brackets if you don't already have Filezilla or Cute FTP client.

    Brackets - A modern, open source code editor that understands web design.

    eqFTP

    Nancy

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    Teodor K
    Teodor K
    Participating Frequently
    January 9, 2018

    Yes, it is you I am quoting. I already explained that you won't have to purchase separate extensions as it is now in DW. And you saying that we are going to sell separate extensions for Wappler is the fake info I am referring to. The article explains that the functions, integrated in DW as extensions will be integrated in Wappler and depending on the needs you will have several options for purchase (not separate extensions!).

    As for Ben - he is one of the hundreds users invited in our pre-release forum.

    You will learn more about the pricing model and options when this is officially announced.

    I won't be posting anything else about it at this moment.

    ---DMXzone | Wappler
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    W_J_T
    Inspiring
    January 9, 2018

    https://forums.adobe.com/people/Teodor+K  wrote

    • Yes, it is you I am quoting
    • You won't have to purchase separate extensions as it is now in DW
    • You saying that we are going to sell separate extensions for Wappler is the fake info
    • The article explains that the functions, integrated in DW as extensions will be integrated in Wappler and depending on the needs you will have several options for purchase (not separate extensions!).
    • As for Ben - he is one of the hundreds users invited in our pre-release forum.

    Thanks for directly clarifying that Ben started the fake info, when he stated (as seen above) "can be purchased in a similar manner to Dreamweaver extensions". So your own "invited users" have conflicting views and are releasing and reporting conflicting information verse what you are now stating here. Don't blame that on me, the confusion surrounding your product is not my fault when your own invited users are confused.

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      osgood_
      Legend
      January 9, 2018

      W_J_T  wrote

      Thanks for directly clarifying that Ben started the fake info, when he stated (as seen above) "can be purchased in a similar manner to Dreamweaver extensions". So your own "invited users" have conflicting views and are releasing and reporting conflicting information verse what you are now stating here. Don't blame that on me, the confusion surrounding your product is not my fault when your own invited users are confused.

      Sounded exactly like that to me as well, not that I care much, its just a basic good web-editor I'm looking for not one which comes with optional  paid for extensions, although that's going to be useful for some people - so I don't see how I can be of any possible financial value to DMXZone if its freely available, assuming its capable of writing code, with out buying into extra plugins. I 'd much rather just pay for the editor and supoort its development but if others want to do that for me well what can I say.

      I_Hate_Subscriptions
      I_Hate_Subscriptions
      Participating Frequently
      January 9, 2018

      I used Dreamweaver several years ago while building sites for myself and a few local organizations (mostly charitable). However, a growing family and a decent job caught up with me, so I abandoned the sites (still live, but are now managed by others). I haven't been serious with web building for about the last five years. I have, however, used Adobe RoboHelp (which includes a one-time purchase option) for the last few years for creating HTML documents.

      The kids are growing up and going to college, so I'm ready to go again, but I'm shopping for a decent web/HTML editor that provides the WYSIWYG option along with regular coding. The world has changed with mobile devices, so I also worry about responsive HTML.

      For a startup, Dreamweaver is not going to work. If I'm going to gamble, I will make a one-time purchase (not subscription). I wanted to consider Dreamweaver as an option (that's why I'm here), but it appears there are alternative options that will meet my needs.

      I_Hate_Subscriptions
      I_Hate_Subscriptions
      Participating Frequently
      January 8, 2018

      Unfortunately, Adobe has moved away from servicing the small guy (individual, small business, etc). Subscriptions make sense to large business, but make no sense to those that don't have a lot of money to burn.

      Subscription locks you in... if I can't afford to make a monthly payment (medical bills, unexpected circumstances, higher business priorities), then I lose my ability to use the software.

      Adobe Subscription is probably the right call if you own a large business -- and if that's the audience Adobe wants to target.

      But it forces the smaller guy to look for alternative software programs. I have  been encouraging my three college kids to stay away from subscription-based services.

      The model works for large businesses that require being kept up-to-date, but most individuals/families/students/small business do not have a need to receive every little update.

      Besides, other software companies often provide free updates to customers within a certain time-frame after purchase. Adobe does not.

      Nancy OShea
      Community Expert
      Nancy OSheaCommunity Expert
      Community Expert
      January 8, 2018

      i_hate_subscriptions  wrote

      other software companies often provide free updates to customers within a certain time-frame after purchase. Adobe does not.

      Untrue.  Adobe gives Creative Cloud members FREE updates & upgrades for as long as we remain members.  And we have access to older product versions if we need them for legacy projects.  IMO, the subscription model is far superior, more affordable and covers a much wider range of products than the old perpetual licensing system did.   YMMV.

      Nancy O'Shea— Product User & Community Expert
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        osgood_
        Legend
        January 8, 2018

        Not that you actually pay for Adobe software being an ACP so its a bit rich to comment.

        pziecina
        pziecina
        Legend
        May 5, 2017

        As a fellow pensioner, I agree that a subscription is very expensive, and would like to see Adobe, (and every one else) offer us a least the student rate. The trouble is I do not think it is going to happen.

        If you do your site using code then a free alternative such as Brackets, (Nancy's suggestion) would be a very good alternative, as with a few extensions it would be just as good as Dreamweaver for you.

        The question I would ask you though, is what else do you wish to do?

        As an example if you wish to learn more about what one can now do using css and html5, then surprisingly the suggestion of Atom by 'rayek' is at the moment better than Brackets, (or Dreamweaver). Another alternative would be visual studio code -

        https://code.visualstudio.com/

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        osgood_
        Legend
        May 5, 2017

        Pinegrow/Atom, et al - I'm dust.

        More time to enjoy the wine and the sun.

        pziecina
        pziecina
        Legend
        May 5, 2017

        osgood_  wrote

        More time to enjoy the wine and the sun.

        once you become a pensioner, you look at any complaints from others as being irrelevant, (almost better than the wine and sun).

        creativedigitalnz
        creativedigitalnz
        Known Participant
        May 5, 2017

        I have to say, I was disappointed to receive another price increase email here in New Zealand. Adobe is the only cloud subscription that seems to increase on a regular basis. If this keeps up I will start looking for alternatives.

        rayek.elfin
        rayek.elfin
        Legend
        May 5, 2017

        Another alternative: Pinegrow with Atom. Atom is free (Atom​​) and Pinegrow (https://pinegrow.com/ ) is either $80 for a perpetual license with 1 year of free updates, or $8 a month (subscription). Pinegrow is easy visual editing, while Atom integrates seamlessly for code editing - change the code, and Pinegrow updates the visual view automatically (while you type). Edit in the visual view of Pinegrow, and the code adjusts with it.

        Version 3 is going to be very interesting - in my opinion Pinegrow is the direction that Dreamweaver would have taken in a better alternate universe.

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          Orchids-WorldAuthor
          Known Participant
          May 5, 2017

          Thanks, I will have a look at it and try it out. There used to be so many Software, even Microsoft used to have a reasonably good one in the 80's.

          Nancy OShea
          Community Expert
          Nancy OSheaCommunity ExpertCorrect answer
          Community Expert
          May 4, 2017

          Download Brackets.  It's free.  And the code engine is the very same one Dreamweaver uses.  You will need to get an FTP extension for Brackets if you don't already have Filezilla or Cute FTP client.

          Brackets - A modern, open source code editor that understands web design.

          eqFTP

          Nancy

          Nancy O'Shea— Product User & Community Expert
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            Orchids-WorldAuthor
            Known Participant
            May 5, 2017

            Thanks. The use of only "code" will be difficult for me, sometimes I would like to see the "results" of my coding (WYSIWYG editor). With Adobe, I even pay for "Cloud space" use although I do not use anything. Anyway, I will download and try out Brackets. It could be just what I need. Thank again.

            Nancy OShea
            Community Expert
            Nancy OSheaCommunity Expert
            Community Expert
            May 5, 2017

            Orchids-World  wrote

            Thanks. The use of only "code" will be difficult for me, sometimes I would like to see the "results" of my coding (WYSIWYG editor).

            In Brackets, use Preview with Chrome browser to see your work in real-time.

            Nancy   

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