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pziecina
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October 10, 2018
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When did browser compatability become unimportant?

  • October 10, 2018
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This is just a general question, and a just out of interest one.

4-5 years ago many people objected strenuously against the use of flexbox, (don't be shy in saying why ) although at that time 94% of users had a device or browser that supported its use. The main reason given was that IE8/9 did not support it and some browsers devices required prefixes. (easy to implement) Fallback pollyfils did exist at the time, and css auto-prefixers.

The same also applies to css such as transforms and many more specs.

Fast forward to 2018 and css grids are being actively supported by many, including as an alternative, (easy) system to Muse users, even though less than 80% of browsers and devices support its use, ('can i use', does not show older devices that are still in popular use, so I have deducted a few %).

I would not call css grids "easy to learn", and so far I have not seen a visual method of its use that I could recommend to anyone.

What I am wondering is, if it is just those requiring a more visual, (but very limited in my experiance) methods of both css layouts and other css features, (such as animations) that are now leaving the old 'its not compatible with xyz' way of thinking, or are others, (e.g. Coders) thinking the same way, or starting to?

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Inspiring
October 11, 2018

“Risk comes from not knowing what you're doing.” — Warren Buffett

Maybe he was secretly talking about web development and the lack of actually 'investing' in learning ones profession?

Legend
October 10, 2018

There seems to be some positive push towards using grid recently but I'm holding off until its a bit more widely supported. I dont get that feeling yet. A lot of developers on youtube are using it in tutorials but to use it in production is a little forward I think at the moment.

webflow are pushing their visual css grid system at the moment I got an email from them today.

Build CSS grid layouts visually | Webflow

I think grid will be much like flexbox - you pick the parts you unsderstand and which you feel makes building a layout simpler than what it is/was.

I dunno about muse users, thems kind of people don't understand anything about development, they generally rely on some bit of kit producing the work for them regardless. If its available those suckers will use it.

pziecina
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October 10, 2018

osgood_  wrote

I dunno about muse users, thems kind of people don't understand anything about development, they generally rely on some bit of kit producing the work for them regardless. If its available those suckers will use it.

What I am wondering though, given all the hype about css grids and visual tools for creating css grid layouts, that those requiring a visual aproach to css layouts, (and animations using Animate and googles css designer). Is if none/semi coders are actually starting to forget the old fears and compatability issues that was and maybe still is prevalent among many coders, and is it a good thing, (I think it may be)?

Legend
October 10, 2018

pziecina  wrote

What I am wondering though, given all the hype about css grids and visual tools for creating css grid layouts, that those requiring a visual aproach to css layouts, (and animations using Animate and googles css designer). Is if none/semi coders are actually starting to forget the old fears and compatability issues that was and maybe still is prevalent among many coders, and is it a good thing, (I think it may be)?

I don't even think it crosses their mind - as I said if its available to them in an automated workflow it must be good to go - those kinds of developers are brain dead in terms of thinking about anything beyond clicking buttons and dragging bits of text around the screen. In that respect its amazing what these programs can do for someone who is so oblivious to what they are producing. Does any professional really use Webflow or are these programs aimed at a certain kind of person who has the necessity to put together a couple of websites a year, maybe manage the website for their annual village hall tea party, the retired having a bit of fun at the clients expense, etc - I think they can be excused but for anyone trying to tell me they are using them in a professional capacity thats just a joke.