IMPORTANT: Dropping the Fx Prefix - dealing with XML libraries

Deepa, I think that naming scheme is a little dated. Wouldn't it be better to use something more state-of-the-art, like...

DataGroup --> ICanHasData
FxPanel --> ICanHasComponents
FxTitleBar --> IInYourApplication
TextView --> IInYourApplicationLookinAtYourText
FxFade --> KThxBye
etc.

- Peter

Yeah I think Deepas link makes that far more obvious. The first link<br />simply looked like Ely couldn't copy and paste from his excel document<br />correctly :)<br><br /><br><br />Leif Wells Atlanta wrote:<br /><blockquote<br /> cite="mid:83e37f7e0904011306re166602vdb8098a3ada5620@mail.gmail.com"<br /> type="cite">A new message was posted by Leif Wells Atlanta in <br><br /> <br><br /> <b>Developers</b> --<br><br />  IMPORTANT: Dropping the Fx Prefix - dealing with XML libraries<br><br /> <br><br />Uh,... Sean... um... what is today?<br><br /> <br><br /> <br><br />On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 3:42 PM, Sean Christmann <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a<br /> moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:member@adobeforums.com">member@adobeforums.com</a>&gt;</span><br />wrote:<br><br /> <blockquote class="gmail_quote"<br /> style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">A<br />new message was posted by Sean Christmann in <br><br /> <br><br /> <b>Developers</b> --<br><br />  IMPORTANT: Dropping the Fx Prefix - dealing with XML libraries<br><br /> <br><br />I'm glad to see you doing this, regardless of whether it ends up<br />solving XML conflicts. Changing the root namespace to either spark.* or<br />fx.* will make it much easier for all of us to mentally separate old<br />from new when browsing through packages.<br><br /> <br><br />BTW the chart on the linked page is cutting off the first character of<br />each class name in the destination name column<br><br /> <br><br />Greenfield Eliot wrote:<br /> <blockquote type="cite"> A new discussion was started by Greenfield<br />Eliot in <br><br /> <br><br /> <b>Developers</b> --<br><br />  IMPORTANT: Dropping the Fx Prefix - dealing with XML libraries<br><br /> <br><br /> <font face="Calibri, Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><span<br /> style="font-size: 11pt;"><br><br /> <br><br />Hi folks were running into a few more roadblocks in our plans to<br />drop the Fx prefix, that we need some fast input from the community on.<br><br /> <br><br />It turns out theres a lot of poorly written XML library code out<br />there.  After doing the work to drop the prefixes from all the spark<br />components, were discovering that a large number of XML libraries <br />both open source and 3rd party libraries used in the Flex compiler, as<br />well as those used by other community tools that process MXML,  simply<br />cannot handle having multiple tags with the same leaf name.  Silly,<br />given thats exactly the reason XML namespaces exist, but its a fact<br />of life.<br><br /> <br><br />So simply dropping the prefix off of the new components doesnt fly.<br />  But weve heard loud and clear from the community that adding a<br />prefix is also a non-starter.   Weve got a proposal up on the wiki for<br />alternate ways to avoid duplicate names that dont require unsightly<br />prefixes or too much extra typing. <br><br /> <br><br />You can read the details, and comment, here:<br><br /> <br><br /> <font color="#0000ff"><u><a moz-do-not-send="true"<br /> href="http://opensource.adobe.com/wiki/display/flexsdk/Updated+plan+for+dropping+the+FxPrefix"<br /> target="_blank">http://opensource.adobe.com/wiki/display/flexsdk/Updated+plan+for+dropping+the+FxPrefix</a><br><br /> </u></font><br><br />Please comment by EOD today, 4/1/2009, as we are trying to get this<br />work wrapped up as soon as possible.<br><br /> <br><br />Ely.<br><br /> </span></font> <br><br /> <br><br /> <hr align="left" width="200">View/reply at <a<br /> moz-do-not-send="true"<br /> href="http://www.adobeforums.com/webx?13@@.59b87933" target="_blank">IMPORTANT:<br />Dropping the Fx Prefix - dealing with XML libraries</a><br><br />Replies by email are OK.<br><br />Use the <a moz-do-not-send="true"<br /> href="http://www.adobeforums.com/webx?280@@.59b87933%21folder=.3c060fa3"<br /> target="_blank">unsubscribe</a><br />form to cancel your email subscription.<br><br /> <br><br /> </blockquote><br /> <br><br /> <br><br /> <hr align="left" width="200">View/reply at <a<br /> moz-do-not-send="true"<br /> href="http://www.adobeforums.com/webx?13@@.59b87933/0" target="_blank">IMPORTANT:<br />Dropping the Fx Prefix - dealing with XML libraries</a><br><br />Replies by email are OK.<br><br />Use the <a moz-do-not-send="true"<br /> href="http://www.adobeforums.com/webx?280@@.59b87933%21folder=.3c060fa3"<br /> target="_blank">unsubscribe</a> form to cancel your email subscription.<br><br /> <br><br /> </blockquote><br /> <br><br /> <br><br /> <br><br /> <hr align="left" width="200">View/reply at <a moz-do-not-send="true"<br /> href="http://www.adobeforums.com/webx?13@@.59b87933/1">IMPORTANT:<br />Dropping the Fx Prefix - dealing with XML libraries</a><br><br />Replies by email are OK.<br><br />Use the <a moz-do-not-send="true"<br /> href="http://www.adobeforums.com/webx?280@@.59b87933%21folder=.3c060fa3">unsubscribe</a><br />form to cancel your email subscription.<br><br /></blockquote>

I think you guys should add support for 1337 speak after April 1st as well :)




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So we got a lot of pushback on Ely's proposal because it wasn't smart enough. We really want to solve this in a smart way. Smart is key - we think our powerusers will really appreciate this second proposal so please check it out here and comment by end of day.

Thanks!
deepa

http://opensource.adobe.com/wiki/display/flexsdk/Updated+133t+plan+for+dropping+the+Fx+prefix

So, we got a lot of pushback on Ely's proposal and deemed it wasn't smart enough. We really want to solve this in a smart way - smart is key. So please check out the second proposal I've posted here:

http://opensource.adobe.com/wiki/display/flexsdk/Updated+133t+plan+for+dropping+the+Fx+prefix

Comments are due by end of day.

Uh,... Sean... um... what is today?

I'm glad to see you doing this, regardless of whether it ends up<br />solving XML conflicts. Changing the root namespace to either spark.* or<br />fx.* will make it much easier for all of us to mentally separate old<br />from new when browsing through packages.<br><br /><br><br />BTW the chart on the linked page is cutting off the first character of<br />each class name in the destination name column<br><br /><br><br />Greenfield Eliot wrote:<br /><blockquote cite="mid:C5F9080F.551B%25egreenfi@adobe.com" type="cite"><br /> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; "><br />A new discussion was started by Greenfield Eliot in <br><br /> <br><br /> <b>Developers</b> --<br><br />  IMPORTANT: Dropping the Fx Prefix - dealing with XML libraries<br><br /> <br><br /> <font face="Calibri, Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><span<br /> style="font-size: 11pt;"><br><br /> <br><br />Hi folks were running into a few more roadblocks in our plans to<br />drop the Fx prefix, that we need some fast input from the community on.<br><br /> <br><br />It turns out theres a lot of poorly written XML library code out<br />there.  After doing the work to drop the prefixes from all the spark<br />components, were discovering that a large number of XML libraries <br />both open source and 3rd party libraries used in the Flex compiler, as<br />well as those used by other community tools that process MXML,  simply<br />cannot handle having multiple tags with the same leaf name.  Silly,<br />given thats exactly the reason XML namespaces exist, but its a fact<br />of life.<br><br /> <br><br />So simply dropping the prefix off of the new components doesnt fly.<br />  But weve heard loud and clear from the community that adding a<br />prefix is also a non-starter.   Weve got a proposal up on the wiki for<br />alternate ways to avoid duplicate names that dont require unsightly<br />prefixes or too much extra typing. <br><br /> <br><br />You can read the details, and comment, here:<br><br /> <br><br /> <font color="#0000ff"><u><a moz-do-not-send="true"<br /> href="http://opensource.adobe.com/wiki/display/flexsdk/Updated+plan+for+dropping+the+FxPrefix">http://opensource.adobe.com/wiki/display/flexsdk/Updated+plan+for+dropping+the+FxPrefix</a><br><br /> </u></font><br><br />Please comment by EOD today, 4/1/2009, as we are trying to get this<br />work wrapped up as soon as possible.<br><br /> <br><br />Ely.<br><br /> </span></font><br /> <br><br /> <br><br /> <hr align="left" width="200">View/reply at <a moz-do-not-send="true"<br /> href="http://www.adobeforums.com/webx?13@@.59b87933">IMPORTANT:<br />Dropping the Fx Prefix - dealing with XML libraries</a><br><br />Replies by email are OK.<br><br />Use the <a moz-do-not-send="true"<br /> href="http://www.adobeforums.com/webx?280@@.59b87933%21folder=.3c060fa3">unsubscribe</a><br />form to cancel your email subscription.<br><br /> <br><br /></blockquote><br /><br><br /><pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">-- <br />Sean Christmann | Experience Architect | EffectiveUI | 720.937.2696</pre>