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Legend
May 10, 2013
Question

another jour, another glitch?

  • May 10, 2013
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Probably as long as I've been using FM, I've always included "keep with next" as a property in heading styles. I do also use "keep with previous", but normally only for figure captions; they come after their graphic, obviously, in my standard layout.

Wednesday I started on a new section in a chapter: added a level 3 heading, then a graphic, then a comment … and saw to my surprise that that the heading is staying on the page before the graphic.

Here's a picture. The "Accessories and options" heading style is set to keep with next; the style for the graphics link and the style for the comment have no keep properties set. In fact, the "keep with next" behaviour seems to have fallen off some other heading styles as well; but it would take longer to track down an example.

What's going on? how do I make sure that keep with next keeps with next – like it always used to? Begins to remind me of the [original book] The Bodysnatchers – little things changing in an old friend's behaviour. I knew adding pods to the interface was a mistake <rofl>

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Bob_Niland
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May 10, 2013

> ... and saw to my surprise that that the heading is staying on the page before the graphic.

The usual culprit is that the para before that, which appears to be one we can't see that is also anchoring the table, one also has KWN set.

It is way too easy to set conflicting requirements using Keep With. FM makes its best guess, which is rarely what you intended.

Legend
May 13, 2013

Forensic excellence – yup, the anchor style for the table also had keep with next enabled. That's almost always what I want, but the table in the screenshot is just the right length to call unwanted interactions into play. Thanks for alerting me to this.

Matt-Tech Comm Tools
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Community Expert
May 10, 2013

Have you tried using the paragraph designer and the down arrow to go through each of the paragraphs (including the one holding the table anchor?

You may find that one of your para's has a Keep with setting that is conflicting with what you want.

Bottom line: Either the graphic, the table, or both are forcing FM to choose 'tween pagination instructions. To test, you could force a break in the table, and shrink the size of your anchored frame to see if you get back to what you expect.

-Matt Sullivan, FrameMaker Course Creator, Author, Trainer, Consultant