Skip to main content
Ran_techwriter
Inspiring
January 26, 2016
Answered

Any guesses why Chapter Numbered Headings that increment OK in FM11 don’t after conversion to FM12?

  • January 26, 2016
  • 2 replies
  • 1006 views

Any guesses why Chapter Numbered Headings that increment OK in FM11 don’t after conversion to FM12?

I’m running both FrameMaker 12 unstructured and FrameMaker 11 (for use with legacy project files only) on a Win7 PC. The chapters in my FM11-formatted book file for a new product user’s guide increment normally in FM11, but something’s amiss after the FM 11 formatted project files are saved in FM 12.
The Book file includes:
- Product Guide Cover.fm
- Product GuideTOC.fm
- Product GuideLOF.fm (List of Figures)
- Product GuideLOT.fm (List of Tables)
- Product GuideContent.fm (Chapters 1-10) – Book File Numbering Properties: Chapter 1 (Numeric)
- Product GuideIX.fm (Index) (Chapter 11) – Book File Numbering Properties: Chapter 2 (Numeric)

Note: Chapter Headings (e.g., 1 - Introduction, 2 - Specifications, and so on) in both the Product GuideContent.fm and Product GuideIX.fm files are formatted in Paragraph Designer as: (Autonumber Format enabled) H:<n+>\t
However, when I update the book, the Index appears formatted as Chapter 1 instead of Chapter 11. It appears that the conversion to FM 12 messed up Autonumbering in the Product GuideIX.fm file, so that the only way to increment the value would be to manually update the building blocks in the IX.fm file from H:<n+>\t to H:<n=11>\t (which I won’t do). Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!

Thank You - Randall Bassin

    This topic has been closed for replies.
    Correct answer Matt-Tech Comm Tools

    Hi Ran,

    This is for anyone finding the topic, since you and I just finished discussing this with a screen share...

    After looking at your files, the "Chapter numbers" are really only section numbers, with all 10 of them in the same .fm file. That means you really can't use the <$chapnum> to number them and the index.

    In most cases, you'd still be able to use the Fm 5.0 technique of manually counting the title paragraphs with a series indicator and counter (ex. H:<n+>), but you also have a number of your headings in text frames not included in the flow.

    This seems to be keeping your book from updating the index heading properly.

    Thus, the only way to get the proper index number is to control it manually. You have at least 3 choices:

    1. Type it in manually
    2. Enter it manually in the autonumber box for the index
    3. Enter it manually in the Chapter numbering tab of the Numbering Properties.

    However, all of these things are additional bandages on top of your existing bandages, and I'd rather see the underlying problems resolved instead of the 3 "kludges" I've provided.

    For sake of closure, please mark the question if this seems to be accurate to you.

    Sorry for the bad(ish) news!

    -Matt

    2 replies

    Matt-Tech Comm Tools
    Community Expert
    Matt-Tech Comm ToolsCommunity ExpertCorrect answer
    Community Expert
    January 27, 2016

    Hi Ran,

    This is for anyone finding the topic, since you and I just finished discussing this with a screen share...

    After looking at your files, the "Chapter numbers" are really only section numbers, with all 10 of them in the same .fm file. That means you really can't use the <$chapnum> to number them and the index.

    In most cases, you'd still be able to use the Fm 5.0 technique of manually counting the title paragraphs with a series indicator and counter (ex. H:<n+>), but you also have a number of your headings in text frames not included in the flow.

    This seems to be keeping your book from updating the index heading properly.

    Thus, the only way to get the proper index number is to control it manually. You have at least 3 choices:

    1. Type it in manually
    2. Enter it manually in the autonumber box for the index
    3. Enter it manually in the Chapter numbering tab of the Numbering Properties.

    However, all of these things are additional bandages on top of your existing bandages, and I'd rather see the underlying problems resolved instead of the 3 "kludges" I've provided.

    For sake of closure, please mark the question if this seems to be accurate to you.

    Sorry for the bad(ish) news!

    -Matt

    -Matt Sullivan, FrameMaker Course Creator, Author, Trainer, Consultant
    Ran_techwriter
    Inspiring
    January 27, 2016

    My thanks and appreciation to Arnis and Jeff for taking the time to review and offer suggestions, and to Matt Sullivan for his expertise in getting to the bottom of it.         

    Jeff_Coatsworth
    Community Expert
    Community Expert
    January 26, 2016

    How are the numbering properties set at the Book level?

    Ran_techwriter
    Inspiring
    January 26, 2016

    The Numbering Properties are set at the Book level identically to those set in the original FM11 source files, i.e.:

    - Product GuideContent.fm (Chapters 1-10) – Book File Numbering Properties: Chapter#: 1 Format: Numeric (14)
    - Product GuideIX.fm (Index) (Chapter 11) – Book File Numbering Properties: Chapter#: 2 Format: Numeric (14)

    Jeff_Coatsworth
    Community Expert
    Community Expert
    January 26, 2016

    Have you tried renaming the existing index & creating a new one to see if it behaves?