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February 14, 2023
Question

Ctrl-z loses manual formatting in footnotes...

  • February 14, 2023
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Hi everyone,

Maybe I should post a bug report, but I wanted to ask the community first.

Since we started using FM22, we experience some very annoying behaviour : undoing certain actions (unchain for instance) takes a lot of time AND loses all manual formatting in footnotes (space above, etc.).

Anyone has experienced the same issue ? Some tip ?

Thank you,

Xavier

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    frameexpert
    Community Expert
    Community Expert
    February 14, 2023

    Can you avoid doing manually formatting in the footnotes? Your formatting should all be applied via the EDD/template and you should avoid manually formatting in a structured document.

    Participant
    February 15, 2023

    No, I don't think I can, since Frame is not able to keep notes on the page of their call (?) nor compose nice paragraphs without too much white space.

    K.Daube
    Community Expert
    Community Expert
    February 15, 2023

    «I don't think I can, since Frame is not able to keep notes on the page of their call»

    Since FM-17 (2022) there is a check box at the bottom of the Format > Document > FootNote Properties daialogue: Keep Footnote with Reference.

    Community Expert
    February 14, 2023

    I have experienced something similar. Hitting undo, would undo - not just the last changes - but ALL changes since opening the document. I haven't had it since the last update of FM2022 though

     

    Bjørn Smalbro - FrameMaker.dk
    Jeff_Coatsworth
    Community Expert
    Community Expert
    February 14, 2023

    Ah, now that sounds vaguely familiar - I think you're right; they knocked that one off in one of the patches.

    Participant
    February 14, 2023

    Yes, I've seen this issue, but I don't think it's the same, since the behaviour is different and my Framemaker is up-to-date (17.0.1, sept. 2022).

    Community Expert
    February 14, 2023

    Hi Xavier,

     

    Do you mean disconnecting text frames with "unchain"?

    Do you do this regularly, so that you know that undoing this step was faster in previous versions?

    Which space before footnotes is changed? Do you have a frame above in the footnote paragraph format? Or space before? Did this change? Can you reproduce this issue? Also with new files with the FrameMaker default template?

    And your files are not structured, aren't they?

    I do not use footnotes (or at least only very few), and I do not disconnect text frames. Therefore I did not encounter your issue yet.

     

    Best regards

     

    Winfried

    Participant
    February 14, 2023

    Hi,

    Yes, they are structured documents. Sorry, I forgot to mention that.

    When the issue occurs, it happens to ALL footnotes with some paragraph or character style manually changed (space before, kerning, etc.), and all parameters are reset to default of their paragraph or character style.

    With "unchain", I actually meant "unwrap". This causes some lag, but for the moment I cannot reproduce the issue with the footnotes (since it seems quite random to me), but I'm working on it !

    Best regards,

    Xavier

    Jeff_Coatsworth
    Community Expert
    Community Expert
    February 14, 2023

    Never heard of any issues with Undo. Can you go through it step-by-step and show what's happening with some screenshots?