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September 15, 2011
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Cyrillic fonts not supported in variables in FM10?

  • September 15, 2011
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I have a whole set of files using Cyrillic (Arial CYR and Times New Roman CYR), including variables, created in FM7.2.  If I try to manipulate the variables in any way in FM10 (copy/paste, import into another file, etc.), they no longer display correctly, although the font setting has not changed.  The same happens for pretty much any extended font set (Chinese, Korean, Polish, etc.).  Is this a bug in FM10?

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    Bob_Niland
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    September 15, 2011

    This could be a result of crossing the Unicode boundary (at FM8), but let's rule out the historical ways of having this happen ...

    Can you post a typical variable Definition?

    The usual problems are:

    • using a local override to apply the font to the var, which makes it easy for any instance of it to lose the font, or
    • using a Character Format to apply the font inside the var, but the ChFmt doesn't exist in the document into which you are pasting.
    Participating Frequently
    September 15, 2011

    This is a user-defined variable called "Product"

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    It displays correctly in Arial CYR when I open the FM files, and I am using it in a paragraph format called "Footer," in which the font is set to Arial CYR, 8 pt.  It displayed correctly when I initially opened the file, but I had adjusted some of the paragraph formats in one of the other FM files in the book, and when I imported them into the second file, the characters no longer displayed correctly, although they still appear as Cyrillic characters in the original FM file from which I imported the formats.

    This also occurs with Chinese, Korean, and Central European fonts.  I've also noticed the problem with some of my cross-references and some of my other paragraph formats.  It's very odd, because one format will display correctly, while immediately below, another format will be scrambled.

    Bob_Niland
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    Community Expert
    September 15, 2011

    ?íôîðìàöèîííàÿ ñèñòåìà

    Is the text supposed to have the glyphs appear as they do here?

    That looks like roman extension (8th bit on) characters.

    I'm guessing that even in the old manual, these were the roman postional equivalents of cyrillic characters, and only took on cyrillic glyphs when the appropriate (legacy) font was applied.

    If so, this is likely a Unicode boundary problem. Our shop has not migrated production beyond 7.1 for a number of reasons, but the Uniproblem is one of them. Everything will need to be checked for unintended surprise glyphs.

    There may be some back traffic on this forum, from the FM8 days, regarding how to get a good start on migrating old documents. The following Google search string gets some hits:

    framemaker 8 unicode font convert OR migrate OR upgrade site:forums.adobe.com