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August 1, 2018
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Empty pages keep returning FM 2017

  • August 1, 2018
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Hello all,

I have a couple of files that I am having issues re: blank pages.

I have tried to set pagination to Delete Empty Pages and I have selected "Delete Pages" from the Format-Document menu.  Then when I recompile to book, the empty pages return.

Thanks in advance.

Regards,

Ben

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    Correct answer Barb Binder

    I'm starting to realize that there are many features/capabilities within FM that go far beyond what we expect in some of our manuals (they are for internal use only).  From what I read on the web, this whole pagination thing has more to do with how a "real" book is structured (for example, I saw something stating that a book should always have an even number of pages).  Now having said that, we do have guides/manuals that go out to external customers and that is perhaps why someone here (long ago) chose FM to create these docs.  Although it is quite a challenge at times, I am excited that as a BA I will be learning (eventually) something more that just Word for the creation of my documents.


    Hi Ben:

    FrameMaker is both powerful, and tough to teach yourself. "FrameMaker is totally intuitive" said nobody, ever. Add that to needing to get up to speed on typesetting, page design and book layout conventions and it can get a little overwhelming. To address that last reference—book layout conventions—most books start each new chapter on a right-hand page, and once you set that up via book Pagination settings, FrameMaker will add the blank pages at the end of the previous chapters that end on an odd page to make this happen. I have one client who needs to keep the page count (and printing costs) down, so we start on the next available page. It's a choice, and Fm can handle both.

    Now, did that take care of the pagination issue for you? Let me know if you need anything else.

    ~Barb

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    Barb Binder
    Community Expert
    Community Expert
    August 1, 2018

    Hi Ben:

    I wrote this post for a student struggling with removing the empty pages automatically. It covers the common reasons that saving and printing does not delete pages in a single chapter. 

    Adobe FrameMaker: Deleting Empty Pages - Rocky Mountain Training

    You can also select the chapters in the book window, right + click > Pagination to see if the book properties are set to force each new chapter to appear on a right page. For chapters ending on a right page, this will get Fm to add a blank left.

    ~Barb

    ~Barb at Rocky Mountain Training
    Inspiring
    August 2, 2018

    Hi Barb,

    Assuming I interpret your advice correctly, it did not work for me....  Document has 19 pages (the 20th is the problem - it is always blank).To make sure I am looking in the correct places to set parameters, here are some screenshots.

    Right Click from Book window and set as shown (I think this is supposed to override anything set from Format->Page Layout->Pagination when viewing the opened document):

    Also set Master Page Usage setting (changed the "To" parameter from 20 to 19):


    Recompiled book and back to 20 it went.....

    And settings are changed back:

    Note that I also tried to delete page but to no avail.

    Barb Binder
    Community Expert
    Community Expert
    August 2, 2018

    Right click appendix a in the book window > Pagination. Is it set to start on a right hand page?

    Also, in your screen shot, first page is set to read from file—that means it is using the document settings. I recommend setting pagination at the book level.

    ~Barb

    ~Barb at Rocky Mountain Training
    Bob_Niland
    Community Expert
    Community Expert
    August 1, 2018

    Is pagination still set to
    (•) Double sided

    And both that and page count can be separately set in the component file, and for that file in the book, Historically, these could get annoyingly out of sync.

    Paragraph properties set to:
    Start: Top of x Page
    can also result in mystery blanks.