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shalomb61686619
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September 14, 2022
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FM 2015 sometimes does not allow me to insert a space between words

  • September 14, 2022
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Hi,

I am using FM 2015.

The following has happened to me many times. I have not found a pattern as to why or when. Has anyone else seen something like this?

The case is like this. I have text and I want to insert a space and a new word.

For example, today I had the following text:

"Each checker actual output argument shall be variable_lvalue or net_lvalue."

I want it to read

"Each checker actual output argument shall be a variable_lvalue or an net_lvalue."

adding " a" after "be" and " an" after "or".

However, when I typed the additional text, with the space before them, I got the following:

"Each checker actual output argument shall bea variable_lvalue oran net_lvalue."

Track edits is on.

What I actually see are the inserted spaces, but they are crossed-out red, i.e., deleted by FM.

I work around this by forcing spaces, using CTRL + space, but I should not have to do this.

Any ideas?

I have already asked Barb Binder privately, but she said she never said or heard of this.

Thanks!

Shalom

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    Correct answer shalomb61686619

    Fair enough.

    Maybe I can get to it tomorrow.


    OK.

    I admit it.

    I was wrong, at least in the particular example I reported.

    I was correct that it was not connected to Conditonal Text.

    But I was wrong about the rest, at least partly.

    It turned out in this particular example that Track Edits was On (which I knew and want and need) and Smart Spaces was also On (which I did not know, as it is Off in most of my files).

    Weirdly, it seems that the problem occurs only when both are On.

    I would not expect that it would be connected to Track Edits.

    In retrospect, I understand why Smart Spaces would affect this.

    Normally, one thinks of Smart Spaces as removing extra spaces after an existing space.

    In this space, I was adding a space before an existing space.

    But oddly, if Track Edits is Off, it still lets me do this.

    Since I want to add new words into existing text, I can just add the extra space I need after the last new word instead of before the first new word.

    Thanks for everyone's help and I apologize for wasting your time.

    I will report if I encounter a case that is different from this one.

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    Winfried RengCommunity Expert
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    September 19, 2022

    Hi,

     

    Could it be that your issue is related to your font? What do you use? What happens when you switch to another font, e.g. Arial?

     

    Best

    Winfried

     

    Matt-Tech Comm Tools
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    Matt-Tech Comm ToolsCommunity Expert
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    September 16, 2022

    Hi Shalom, do you use either conditional text or the Track Text Edits in FrameMaker?

    Do you import PDF comments/changes back into your Fm docs?

     

    If so, check your conditional text settings to make sure nothing is being hidden.

    To me, it sounds like you may somehow be entering characters that might be conditional, and hidden.

    Another thing to check would be your Track Text Edit toolbar settings.

    -Matt Sullivan, FrameMaker Course Creator, Author, Trainer, Consultant
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    shalomb61686619Author
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    September 17, 2022

    Hi, Matt.

     

    Conditional text setting is to show all.

    Track Edits is ON.

    As I wrote, it is not like in Smart Spaces, where if I type extra spaces, they do not show up at all. Here, it shows that I typed a space and it was automatically deleted. It shows up with a red crossout. On the other hand, if I type CTRL+space instead of just 'space', forcing the space, then it is OK.

    Matt-Tech Comm Tools
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    Matt-Tech Comm ToolsCommunity Expert
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    September 17, 2022

    A bit of a guess, but try saving a copy of the document, then select all and press control six. Also, try turning off tracked TextEdit. Pardon any typos or grammar, I am on my phone right now.

    -Matt Sullivan, FrameMaker Course Creator, Author, Trainer, Consultant
    Barb Binder
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    Barb BinderCommunity Expert
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    September 14, 2022

    I'm following this, @shalomb61686619! 🙂

     

    ~Barb

    ~Barb at Rocky Mountain Training
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