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kinabalu2
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Jan 24, 2021 12:11 AM UTC
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FM2019 crashes opening a formerly good .fm file

I have FM2019 15.0.8.979 installed - the latest version for that edition. I can open some of my (smaller) .fm files but my largest one crashes with Internal error 15084. I have sent the dump file to Adobe as requested but of course have not heard from them. Internal errors are always the fault of the app.

 

I have lots of backups of the .fm document of various vintages but most fail. I did get one to open but it looked very corrupted. I immediately created a mif file of this but when I tried to open the mif file, my PC spun for a couple of hours before I killed it.

I have tried the shortcut to avoid the checking on opening but that didn't help either.

 

Any advice please?

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    Bob_Niland
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    Feb 13, 2021 1:53 PM UTC

    Although not likely the problem in this instance, another thing to try is reboot, particularly if you rarely shut the machine down and/or have have been using the Windows Hibernate feature in lieu of Sleep or Shut Down.

    I have seen some peculiar behavior* in various apps, but mostly FM2019 & FM2020, the longer I go between reboots. And the problem invariably cannot be duplicated after a clean reboot.

    * (like silently omitting an entire component file when rendering a book)

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    K.Daube
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    Feb 14, 2021 9:00 AM UTC
    another thing to try is reboot,

    I always shut down the system in the evening... Hibernation creates strange effects not only in FM. Therefore reboot is IMHO a first measure in strange situations.

     

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    K.Daube
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    Jan 25, 2021 9:12 AM UTC

    Hi Kinabalu2,

    I have FM2019 15.0.8.979 installed - the latest version for that edition.

    How did you get this update ...979? I'm on ...973 and when I ask to update it says "Your app is already up to date.". As far as I know ...979 is a release candidate, but not yet listed in http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/product.jsp?product=22&platform=Windows

     

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    kinabalu2
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    Jan 25, 2021 9:56 AM UTC

    Interesting. I can't really remember but I'm pretty sure it would have been through the official update mechanism. I didn't go through any devious means to get it for sure. Maybe it was a mistake on Adobe's part or they have pulled it. I certainly would like to go back to a stable version. Is that possible?

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    Community Expert
    Jan 25, 2021 10:05 AM UTC

    Download one of the latest version (in my rememberance update 7 had some bugs, but I am not sure) from here:

    https://supportdownloads.adobe.com/product.jsp?product=22&platform=Windows

    Test, whether this is really a full setup or only an update. (At least until FM 2017 the updates were just an update of the latest version.) If this is a full setup, then uninstall FrameMaker 2019 and install this download.

    Then go to Help | Update and update to the current version.

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    LinSims
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    Jan 24, 2021 2:47 AM UTC

    Did you save from FM2020 to FM2019, or FM2020 to MIF? I suggest saving to MIF and then opening in 2019. Make sure you backup the MIF file somewhere.

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    kinabalu2
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    Jan 24, 2021 10:39 AM UTC

    Thanks for your reply.

    I saved from FM2020 to .fm(2019) and to .mif and to .mif(7.0).

    None of these worked - they all gave the same internal error 15084. So yes, I did save to mif and opened in 2019.

     

    I get the following message in the console when opening both 2020 and 7.0 mif files:

     

    <filename>.mif (13519) Invalid opcode: DFNoteKeepWithAnchor - Skipping these characters: 0>---Done skipping.

     

    With the 2020 mif file, the above error number changes from 13519 to 14004 but the message is otherwise the same.

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    kinabalu2
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    Jan 24, 2021 12:22 AM UTC

    Update on the above. I installed a trial version of FM2020 and read in the offending document OK with that. I saved as FM2019 format but got the same error as above when I tried to open it in FM2019.

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