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April 17, 2013
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Frame to MIF to Frame to MIF to Frame

  • April 17, 2013
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What happens when you have cross references from one chapter to another and save those fm 11 chapters as mifs, which get converted to fm and edited in an earlier version fm 7, then saved as mifs, and then are opened again in fm 11 with  the rest of the chapters in the book?

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Arnis Gubins
Inspiring
April 17, 2013

Other than a convoluted workflow, nothing much should happen unless you move the files around between folders. In that case, you would break the cross-refs.

What also might occur is that if some special symbols or characters are used, they may show up incorrectly, as ?? or some other symbols at the end of the round-tripping. FM11 uses unicode encoding while FM7 uses the old FrameRoman encoding.

mellon89Author
Participating Frequently
April 17, 2013

Have seen the ?? and others as part of going back and forth.
Only a few files are edited in FM7 and then passed back to be dropped back in the folder where the FM11 files and book are located.

Inspiring
April 17, 2013

Be sure to let us know when you find out. ;- )

My best guess would be that if no one mucks with the CRs in 7, they'll be

intact. FM is supposed to ignore contents in the MIF that it doesn't

understand. So the 11 CRs should pass through 7 and back into 11 intact. In

theory. And assuming the files all end up in the same book and they're all

in the same relative path as when they started.

If I were you, I'd try to eliminate the problem by getting the 7 site or

writer upgraded, even temporarily, with an 11 eval.

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mellon89Author
Participating Frequently
April 17, 2013

In this case many of the CR's are updated in FM7, which is where I believe the problem starts.

Arnis Gubins
Inspiring
April 18, 2013

Some cross-ref issues may result from the location of the files (i.e. the folder structures) used on the various machines. If there are links between files in different folders, you have to be careful that the link doesn't cross the root of the drive, e.g. D:\Project1\a.fm linked to D:\Project2\b.fm would cross the "root", whereas D:\Projects\First\a.fm linked to D:\Projects\Second\b.fm does not.

When the link crosses the root, FM makes the link absolute, i.e. the entire filepath is embedded. Otherwise, when linking between folders at a lower level, FM just uses the relative path. You also have to be careful that the folder names along the relative paths remain the same on the various machines.