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July 11, 2024
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Gap between body text and footer

  • July 11, 2024
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Hi all, it's good to be back.

I'm very familiar with Frame 4, 6, 7 and 8 from my days as Tech Writer before retiring 9 years ago.  My next private writing project needs Frame but  some behavior 4 or 5 revs down the road still puzzles me.

 

Specifically, Frame inserts a gap of about 1 inch between the body text and the footnotes any time the footnote (or footnotes) exceeds four lines of text. A paragraph can rattle along, get to an EOL then boom!  Frame inserts the gap, cites the footnotes (correctly) then creates an ophan on the next page to finish the paragraph.

 

Changing the orphan/widow protection has no effect.  I found the frame attributes dialog for that master page but there didn't seem to be anyway to control the gap.  But maybe I'm looking in the wrong place.  Everything seems to have moved around in 9 years.... 😉

 

And yes, this won't occur unless the footnote(s) exceed(s) 4 lines.  The gap disappears (as does the orphan) when I move from a 5 line to a 4 line footnote.  But nothing else seemed to change the behavior.  

I suppose I could simply stick with 4 line footnotes through my book, but there's got to be a better solution.  Any ideas? 

Thanks!

David Blyth

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    Correct answer Bob_Niland

    What have you for the Widows, Orphans & Keeps in the Body paras?

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    Bob_Niland
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    Community Expert
    July 12, 2024

    What newer version of FM?
    I'm not seeing this behavior in a quick FM2020 test.
    And what's the setting for
    Format 🞃 Document » Footnote Properties… /Footnote\
    Maximum Height Per Column:

    Participating Frequently
    July 12, 2024
    What newer version of FM?  

     

    17.04.628.  I just downloaded the most recent rev a few days ago.  FYI, the ruler shows that the gap is 3/4".  Plenty of space to add a few lines before hitting the footnotes.

     

    .
    And what's the setting for
    Format 🞃 Document » Footnote Properties… /Footnote\
    Maximum Height Per Column
    :

     

    See attached screenshots.  I also tried changing the widow/orphan settings of the involved tag (I'm currently in unstructured mode) with no effect.  That is, I fussed with the widow/orphen settings of the "body" tag, not the "footnote" tag.

    Which reminds me.  How do I get rid of that orphan?

    Thanks much!
    Bob_Niland
    Community Expert
    Bob_NilandCommunity ExpertCorrect answer
    Community Expert
    July 12, 2024

    What have you for the Widows, Orphans & Keeps in the Body paras?