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Susan305351693t3o
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January 24, 2024
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How do I delete blank pages in FrameMaker?

  • January 24, 2024
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I have combed through these community pages and there does not seem to be an answer to this question.

 

I have several documents that have blank pages at the end of them. The first thing I tried was Format/Document/Delete Pages. The window pops up with the page numbers I want to delete, and I hit "Ok." Voila! Page gone. But the minute I save it, page comes right back.

 

Then I thought I'd resolved the problem by using Format/Page Layout/Pagination and the selecting "Delete Blank Pages" from the dropdown menu in the window. This seemed to solve the problem, BUT....When I published the book, guess what? Blank pages return, in all their glory.

 

I have played around with Book properties and there is absolutely NOTHING that allows me to delete empty pages at the book level.

 

I have to assume this is a bug, or FrameMaker is just that un-user friendly. Adobe, please fix your bugs. With what you charge for a subscription, these sorts of problems should not be happening. I'm embarrassed to publish these documents!

 

Does anyone know a fix to this???

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    Correct answer Barb Binder

    Hi @Susan305351693t3o 

     

    Happy to answer questions on the links that @Jeff_Coatsworth provided—you can ask at the bottom of any post, or ask here. 

     

    Most printed books start each new chapter (or section) on a right page. If a chapter ends on a right page, Fm will add a left page to allow the the next chapter to start on the right. If this is how the book is set up, even after you delete the trailing left pages manually, they will return after you update the book. 

     

    What is the goal here? Do you want each chapter to begin on the next available page, left or right? If so, select the files in the book window that you want to modify, right click > Pagination:

    Pagination to 1st Page Side: Next Available 

    Before Saving and Printing: Delete Empty Pages

     

    Then update your book.

     

    Caution: if you do this, keep an eye on your running heads. This doesn't force FrameMaker to update the custom master pages applied to the body pages (unless you have defined a master page mapping table), and you might end up with a right page running head on the left page, or the other way around.

     

    ~Barb

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    Barb Binder
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    Barb BinderCommunity ExpertCorrect answer
    Community Expert
    January 24, 2024

    Hi @Susan305351693t3o 

     

    Happy to answer questions on the links that @Jeff_Coatsworth provided—you can ask at the bottom of any post, or ask here. 

     

    Most printed books start each new chapter (or section) on a right page. If a chapter ends on a right page, Fm will add a left page to allow the the next chapter to start on the right. If this is how the book is set up, even after you delete the trailing left pages manually, they will return after you update the book. 

     

    What is the goal here? Do you want each chapter to begin on the next available page, left or right? If so, select the files in the book window that you want to modify, right click > Pagination:

    Pagination to 1st Page Side: Next Available 

    Before Saving and Printing: Delete Empty Pages

     

    Then update your book.

     

    Caution: if you do this, keep an eye on your running heads. This doesn't force FrameMaker to update the custom master pages applied to the body pages (unless you have defined a master page mapping table), and you might end up with a right page running head on the left page, or the other way around.

     

    ~Barb

    ~Barb at Rocky Mountain Training
    Susan305351693t3o
    Inspiring
    February 3, 2024

    Thank you Barb! I actually posted this question again, with more detail, because I'd forgotten I'd already posted it to this forum. Thank you for your help.

    Participant
    November 4, 2024

    i have got the same problem as you, i can see the blank pages at the end of the document. have you resolved this issue, if yes , please let me know, how you did this.

    Bob_Niland
    Community Expert
    Community Expert
    January 24, 2024

    Top thing to do is turn on text symbols, and make sure the pages are really devoid of Body content, otherwise, FM will auto-create them again, rather than retain actual content not author-visible.

    Susan305351693t3o
    Inspiring
    February 3, 2024

    Yes. This was the first thing I checked.

    frameexpert
    Community Expert
    Community Expert
    January 24, 2024

    Hi Susan, I have a series of videos on FrameMaker pagination:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AiI1DOoA6Ug

    If you are in a hurry, send me an email offlist and I will show you how to get your book to cooperate 🙂

    rick at frameexpert dot com

    Susan305351693t3o
    Inspiring
    February 3, 2024

    Thank you Rick! I will watch your videos. Thank you for making them, and thank you for offering me the opportunity to reach out. I just might do that!

    Jeff_Coatsworth
    Community Expert
    Community Expert
    January 24, 2024

    Generally it comes down to the template/master pages that were used to create the document. A lot of them come from the book creation paradigm, so you have things like odd & even pages that drive them to auto-add a blank page to even them up and start on the right page again with a new chapter. 
    See Barb's site for help - https://www.rockymountaintraining.com/adobe-framemaker-9-deleting-empty-pages/ or https://www.rockymountaintraining.com/adobe-framemaker-master-page-basics/ or https://www.rockymountaintraining.com/adobe-framemaker-start-chapters-on-the-next-available-page/ 

    Bob_Niland
    Community Expert
    Community Expert
    February 3, 2024

    Jeff: Generally it comes down to…

    More broadly, FM is doing what it was instructed to do by the original document architect, some prior author, the present content, or some combination thereof. 

    If the forum were to create a prioritized checklist for all the things that can result in blank pages, I'll bet it would run to at least a couple of dozen, including some fairly obscure scenarios.

    But on the understandable desire for: just stop it,
    FM has no feature for: never have a blank page here.
    Conversely (or perversely), it does have a pseudo-feature for Insert»PageBreak…, which doesn't do what many people assume it does (and I»PB would be on the checklist for culprits in unexpected blank pages).

    Susan305351693t3o
    Inspiring
    February 3, 2024

    I'm glad you mention Insert/Page Break. I have been trying to insert page breaks using those commands and FrameMaker does...nothing.