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how to have this graphic

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December 24, 2023
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Hello,

I would like to create this graphic in FrameMaker. Is it possible to create it inside Frame Maker, and how ?

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pierret18811376Author

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That is strange is that on the screen I can see all the graphic, but if I print it I can see only the external circle and the "g" letter (the inner circle does not appear on print). Why ?

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pierret18811376Author

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About the distance between the two circles (see red arrow), I would like to set precisely it in pt. Is it possible with FM ?

By example, is it possible to set an offset of 10 pt between the external circle and the inner circle ?

And for the letter "g", I could of course put it at the center of the inner circle visually.

Personally, I would prefer keeping the same app for the book and the graphic. So I need to know what FM can do in such case.

Bob_Niland

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FM accepts a variety of units in dialogs. For points, just replace whatever the default is (123", 123cm) with "pt" (123pt).

Globally, see View🞃Options

But the reference datum for any object in FM is always going to be the top left corner of its extents, and there is no object-to-object relative measuring either. So, math may be involved.

The question of workflow remains open here. If PDF and/or print is the only target, FM graphics works. If HTML/XML and/or eBook, FM graphics is likely sub-optimal. In a simple Save-as-HTML of a local re-creation of that art, the circles & text ended up getting exported as a really rough GIF.

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pierret18811376Author

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I need also to set the space between the two circles, in pt. How to set it inside FM ?

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FrameMaker-dk

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I think it will be easier to better understand what it is you want to accomplish, if you can upload a screenshot of an entire equation with this character/s placed correctly.

It seems the figure is supposed to work like a character and in that instance, you may be better off just designing a font with the character.

OR create the figure outside of FrameMaker in Illustrator/Affinity/CorelDraw or some other vector graphic designer tool.

FrameMaker can do many things, but it does lack tools for working very detail oriented with graphics. Changing from FrameMaker to InDesign is also an option, but I am not really sure it will be a remedy for you.

Bjørn Smalbro - FrameMaker.dk

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pierret18811376Author

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Hi Bob, Hi Barb,

The problem is that for the technical book I am writing, I need to do a lot of equations and a lot of these type of circles with a letter. Do you think the better would be to do this work in Indesign ? My goal would be to have "auto centering text" for this type of work, by keeping a good quality result.

Bob_Niland

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I have no experience with Indesign, but what DTP app to use for a project usually hinges on much more than how any built-in illustration tools work.

For my FM work, any vector art these days is done in an external vector editor that supports SVG. I have Adobe Illustrator available, so I use that.

Barb Binder

Community Expert

Hi Pierre:

This is due to the shape of the lowercase "g". You might draw an oval over the "g" and center it along with the other two circles. Visually center the "g" over the oval and then delete the oval. Not ideal, but it would work.

~Barb

Told Farms.

~Barb at Rocky Mountain Training

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pierret18811376Author

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Hi,

Thank you.

I have tried to do the same, but I don't succeeded to center the inner circle inside the other circle, idem for the letter.

How to center them ?

K.Daube

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When aligning, the lat thing you select is the "reference" to which you align:

Select the inner circle
hold Schrift and select (click on) the next item
hold shift and select the reference item
Use Graphics > Align (ESC, g, a) to get a dialogue to specify the desired alignment or use the appropriate button in the Alignment Tool bar.

See page 234 ff in https://www.daube.ch/docu/files/compendium.pdf