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donnarms
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September 15, 2023
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I lose text when publishing to a pdf

  • September 15, 2023
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I am working to edit and republish a book that was originally done in FrameMaker 7. All is going well except that when I publish to a pdf document I lose a font that is used in the heading. It is a small cap font (Garamond Expert MT) that looks fine in the Framemaker file, but the text that uses that font disappears when I publish to a pdf.

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    Community Expert
    September 16, 2023

    Hi, @donnarms ,

    I assume your "Garamond Expert MT" is an old Type1 font from Monotype.

    And the expert sets of the good old time have had sometimes issues as the encoding were not always standard encoding.

    So did you try the route File->Print->print to PS-File using the Adobe PDF-Printer and then using the Distiller to make a PDF?

    Does that work?

     

    Regards

    Stephan

    Participant
    September 16, 2023

    Yes, the fonts print correctly using this method, but I lost the page size formatting (5 x 7.5) in. I fear I will have to change the font to something else although, as Barb said, it will be a duanting task. That font is used in occasional places throughout the book (368 pages). Is there a magic way I can make a universal font change all at once?

     

    This has caught me between subscription issues, which is why I was using an older version. I am now using the 30 day trial version until I can jump throught the hoops with my employer to spring for another year. It usually takes about two weeks so I sould be OK.

    donnarms
    donnarmsAuthor
    Known Participant
    September 16, 2023

    Sorry, I was signed in under the wrong account.

    Bob_Niland
    Community Expert
    Community Expert
    September 15, 2023

    If Jeff or Rick's tips don't help, the next top suspect would be embed permission on what I presume is a legacy TTF or Type 1 (PFM) font.

     

    And in any case, can it also be presumed that the smCAPs are directly mapped onto normal Roman lc codepoints, i.e. you type in "m" and it appears as "M".

    Barb Binder
    Community Expert
    Community Expert
    September 15, 2023

    Hi Donn:

     

    Back in the days of FrameMaker 7, we were mostly using Type 1 fonts that were limited to 256 characters and so had to purchase expert sets to access additional glyphs (characters) like ligatures, small caps, etc. Modern OpenType fonts have broken that barrier and now include all of the glyphs in one font. Adobe Garamond Pro is included/installed with FrameMaker. Can you trying changing one heading and see if that takes care of it?

     

    It's a daunting task to update all of the fonts in a book. If it does work, you could just change the headings for now, and then eventually come back and update all other paragraphs when you have some downtime. 

     

    ~Barb

    ~Barb at Rocky Mountain Training
    Bob_Niland
    Community Expert
    Community Expert
    September 18, 2023

    Barb: It's a daunting task to update all of the fonts in a book.

    In a case where an older TTF or PFM/PFB(T1) font is no longer working properly, it would be worth a try to use any of many web font conversion tools to regenerate it as OTF. This would allow you to completely replace FontNameG on your system with FontNameG, avoiding a tsunami of in-app renaming. I'm not sure it can be assumed that any emergent font fail is FM's fault. It might be Windows.
    When and how FM would be directly affected by the following isn't known to me:
    Adobe: PostScript Type 1 fonts end of support

    frameexpert
    Community Expert
    Community Expert
    September 15, 2023

    Which FrameMaker version are you using now and what is your process for creating the PDF?

    donnarms
    donnarmsAuthor
    Known Participant
    September 15, 2023

    I am using the latest version of FrameMaker. FrameMaker updates my files for me. After I do some editing of the text I do this:

    File >> Publish >> PDF >> Generate selected output

    I have republished a dozen books this way and have never had this happen.

    Jeff_Coatsworth
    Community Expert
    Community Expert
    September 15, 2023

    Can you give us the point version of FM? FM2022 has a new process being used to create PDFs via the Save As and Publish methods now (the older Distiller route is still used in Print to Adobe PDF printer instance).