Do the following:In a new FM document, put a few sentences at the top of the page.Add a table below those sentences.Create a second table below the first.Click Insert > Marker and insert a marker in one of the cells in each table. Give the markers unique contents.Place the cursor in the first table and then open the Table Designer.On the Basic tab of the Table Designer, Set the Start value to TOP OF PAGE and click Apply.Both tables should jump to the following page, with the first table remaining above the second table, as it should.Save the FM document.Add the FM document to a Book file.In the Book file, create a List of Markers, setting it to use the marker type you used in Step 4 above.Update the book.Open the LoM document and check the order of the two table markers.The second table marker should be listed above the first table marker, even though the second follows the first in the body document.Why should the TOP OF PAGE quality rearrange the order of markers in the LoM?

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Do the following:

In a new FM document, put a few sentences at the top of the page.
Add a table below those sentences.
Create a second table below the first.
Click Insert > Marker and insert a marker in one of the cells in each table. Give the markers unique contents.
Place the cursor in the first table and then open the Table Designer.
On the Basic tab of the Table Designer, Set the Start value to TOP OF PAGE and click Apply.
Both tables should jump to the following page, with the first table remaining above the second table, as it should.
Save the FM document.
Add the FM document to a Book file.
In the Book file, create a List of Markers, setting it to use the marker type you used in Step 4 above.
Update the book.
Open the LoM document and check the order of the two table markers.

The second table marker should be listed above the first table marker, even though the second follows the first in the body document.

Why should the TOP OF PAGE quality rearrange the order of markers in the LoM?

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Correct answer Lynne A. Price

Glad to know someone sees the issue.

I've tried putting the markers in the body of the document, and that works, but it puts the marker for the first table on the previous page, which isn't desired.

The only solution I've found is to put both markers in text frames next to their respective tables.

I have submitted bug FRMAKER-6397 on this issue. I can create simple test files in both FM 2017 and FM 2019 that list the marker in the second table first and others that list the marker in the first table first.

--Lynne

doug1120Author

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I put a ZIP file onto Dropbox at the link below. Let me know if it works. It contains a Book file, an FM file and a LoM file.

Dropbox - BugTest.zip

L

Lynne A. Price

Inspiring

Doug,

Thank you for the sample files. Here's what I've found so far:

1. FM 2019's behavior on this issue seems to be the same as FM 2017's.

2. I had created my own test file, following the steps you described yesterday. The LOM looked fine. When I looked at your file, I noticed that the anchor for the first table was in its own paragraph. I changed my test file by putting a break before the anchor, regenerated the LOM and the entries were out of order.

3. I next tried putting a space before the anchor to see if the incorrect result only appears when the anchor is the only thing in the paragraph; entries were still out of order. So then I tried a letter 'x' to see if a visible character made a difference. The entries were still out of order.

4. Setting the first table to start at the top of a page clearly makes a difference. When it is set to start anywhere, the order is correct. I can go back and forth and the order changes.

I'll try a few more variations later and let you know if I come up with a workaround.

--Lynne

doug1120Author

Known Participant

Glad to know someone sees the issue.

I've tried putting the markers in the body of the document, and that works, but it puts the marker for the first table on the previous page, which isn't desired.

The only solution I've found is to put both markers in text frames next to their respective tables.

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Winfried Reng

Community Expert

Hi Doug,

I tested this with new files, but I could not reproduce your issue.

I had created markers of type Comment and Subject.

Both marker types are ordered correctly in the LOM. The order did not change when I set the first table to Top of Page.

Which marker type did you use?

Best regards

Winfried

doug1120Author

Known Participant

You need to use the same marker type. I'm not sure the type matters, but I used "Tables". I'm making a list of tables so I use the same marker type for each marker I put in each table. I put them into the table itself to ensure that the table isn't off the top of the screen when a user clicks the link in the LoM document.

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Winfried Reng

Community Expert

Hi Doug,

I had several markers:

First table 1 (Index), 11 (Subject), 111 (Tables).

Second table 2 (Index), 22 (Subject), 222 (Tables)

The order is always correct:

1

11

111

2

22

222

When I remove markers Index and Subject from the LOM, then I just get 111 and then 222.

This order does not change, when I set the first table to start Top of Page.

Best regards

Winfried

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