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January 25, 2016
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Lots of red rectangles maybe in place of graphics?

  • January 25, 2016
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I've inherited a set of 86 8.0p277 MIF files (303 pages total) that come with a lot of TIFF files. I imported them as fm files in FM10 with no problems.  When I look at them, they don't display any images. Instead, I get dozens of red dashed boxes, which are in the master pages, but can't be selected. I think these are background images.

The original editing language was German, and I didn't get the book file.

- I've made all conditional text unconditional, didn't help.

- Saved as html, no rectangles, but no graphics.

- Saved as rtf, same.

- Saved as FM10 MIF, rectangles, .tif references are present.

- Looked at FM8 MIF files, .tif references present.

But there's no request for the files' location when I open the original FM8 MIF. The references are present in the new FM10 MIF, but no prompts or display there either.

A TIFF reference from the FM10 MIF looks like:

  <ImportObject

   <Unique 1037782>

   <Pen 15>

   <Fill 7>

   <PenWidth  1.0 pt>

   <Separation 0>

   <ObColor `Black'>

   <RunaroundType Contour>

   <ImportObFileDI `<u\><c\>pictures<c\>fri060146000.tif'>

   <ImportObFile `../pictures/fri060146000.tif'>

   <ImportHint `0001FRAMTIFFMACP0001'>

   <ImportObUpdater `TIFF'>

   <ShapeRect  -23.92676 mm -7.0 mm 103.85356 mm 69.26943 mm>

   <BRect  -23.92676 mm -7.0 mm 103.85356 mm 69.26943 mm>

   <ImportObFixedSize Yes>

   <BitMapDpi 0>

   <FlipLR No>

  > # end of ImportObject

What am I missing?

Thank you!!!!

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    Participating Frequently
    January 26, 2016

    Some suggestions:

    • Confirm that your FM10 application can display the TIFF files:
      • Identify a TIFF file that is referenced in the FM8 MIF, but that is not displaying when you open the MIF.
      • Create a new document using FM10.
      • Import the TIFF file.
      • Confirm it displays correctly.

    FrameMaker cannot display all variants of the TIFF format. For example, it doesn't do transparency or CMYK. If the TIFF doesn't display, use a graphics editor to convert it to a supported format, such as an RGB PNG file.

    • After opening the FM8 MIF, confirm that the View menu has an entry to Hide Graphics.

    If the View menu instead says Show Graphics, there is a statement in the FM8 MIF that is disabling graphics display. Choose View > Show Graphics to reverse this.

    • Post the original FM8 MIF here. Preferably an <ImportObject ... > # end of ImportObject, and the object that wraps it (e.g. a <Frame>).

    You're posting the FM10 MIF, resulting from opening the FM8 MIF and re-saving it as MIF. Whatever is causing the problem might be stripped out by this process.

    • Compare the FM8 and FM10 MIF files for a single graphic. Any major differences might give a hint of the problem.

    Expect some minor differences, such as changes in the <Unique> identifiers.

    Legend
    January 26, 2016

    fwiw … I created a new .fm file with just one graphic frame, set the frame fill to red and imported a graphic by reference – I was curious to read that you ended up with red frames when there was no mention of red in your code extract, and I don't usually go anywhere near referenced graphics when I'm looking at .mif

    Here's what FM offered me:

    <Frame

    <ID 1>

    <Unique 999519>

    <Pen 1>

    <Fill 7>

    <PenWidth  1.0 pt>

    <Separation 2>

    <ObColor `Red'>

    <DashedPattern

       <DashedStyle Solid>

    > # end of DashedPattern

    <RunaroundGap  6.0 pt>

    <RunaroundType None>

    <Angle  360.0>

    <ShapeRect  1.5" 2.34722" 4.53443" 2.91444">

    <BRect  1.5" 2.34722" 4.53443" 2.91444">

    <FrameType Inline>

    <NSOffset  0.0">

    <BLOffset  0.0">

    <AnchorAlign Center>

    <Cropped No>

    <ImportObject 

    <Unique 999529> 

    <Fill 7>

    <Separation 0>

    <ObColor `Black'>

    <ImportObFileDI `<c\>das.png'>

    <ImportObFile `das.png'>

    <ImportHint `0001IMAGPNG WIN3    '>

       <ImportObUpdater `PNG'>

      <ShapeRect  0.69694" 0.45141" 3.8236" 2.44914">

      <BRect  0.69694" 0.45141" 3.8236" 2.44914">

       <ImportObFixedSize Yes>

       <BitMapDpi 0>

       <FlipLR No>

       <ImportObNameDI `1349679480'>

       <ObjectActivateInPDF No>

       <ObjectOpenInFloatWindow No>

       <ObjectSupportMMLink No>

    > # end of ImportObject

    > # end of Frame

    Have the references in some magical fashion disappeared from the source files you're working with? if I remove the <ImportObject> lines from the .mif example above, then I end up with just the empty graphics frame outlined with a dashed, red line – as you describe. The absence of references to graphics could also explain why FM is not asking you to update the path.