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adrianaharper
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July 16, 2009
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Page numbers in individual books as well as master book

  • July 16, 2009
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Hi all,

I am using Unstructured FM 9.0p237 in the TCS2 suite on a Windows XP machine.

I created a bunch of books as stand-alone books and that worked out really well, no issues with page numbers, x-refs, etc. All good.

Now we are looking at creating both stand-alone books as well as one, overreaching book that contains all the content in it. My question is this:

I don't want to maintain different versions of each file in order to have one version stand-alone and one for the master book, because edits and updates are always happening to these files and that would be pretty arduous to have a bunch of different versions floating around. However, if I update the page numbers in the master book (Format, Document, Numbering), that updates the page numbers in each of the stand-alone books too, and vice versa.

Am I missing something... is there a way to somehow tell FM that the page numbers should be one way in the master book but another way in each stand-alone book?  Or do I just need to remember to re-update the document's numbering properties each time I do anything in any of them?

TIA!!

Adriana

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    adrianaharper
    Known Participant
    July 20, 2009

    Thank you to Van and Nakshatra for the info.  The standalone page number books did get updated regardless...I need to update each standalone book. I will try to "update the master book while unchecking the 'Numbering' and the 'Generate Table of Contents, Lists and Indexes' options in the Update Book dialog to avoid pushing numbering in the child books"- here's hoping.

    Thanks again :-)

    -A

    NakshatraB
    Adobe Employee
    Adobe Employee
    July 17, 2009

    Van is correct. You would need to update each standalone book after you have updated the master book in such a scenario.

    One way out could be to keep all files in child books open and then update the master book. The numbering pushed in the individual files can be discarded while closing the child book files. Your standalone numbering will remain untouched.
    If you are using the master book just to aggregate all standalone books then you could update the master book while unchecking the 'Numbering' and the 'Generate Table of Contents, Lists and Indexes' options in the Update Book dialog to avoid pushing numbering in the child books.
    Another option to avoid accidently updating page numbering in child books would be to keep these standalone books Excluded in the master book. You can do this by right clicking child books in the master book and select "Exclude". Excluded components in a book do not participate in book wide operations.

    Hope one of the above workaround works well for you.

    -Nakshatra

    adrianaharper
    Known Participant
    September 15, 2009

    This has come up again and I have some additional questions...

    Regarding "excluding" the child books contained in the master book... doesn't that mean that the content won't be updated? I noticed that it certainly means that the page numbers are not updated in the book currently being worked on... (which seems to defeat the purpose). The child books (standalone) books are routinely updated with new screen shots, etc... so if I exclude them in the master then are they not updated with the new content found in the child books?

    Regarding excluding numbering and generating the TOC... the issue with this is that then the page numbering in the book remains the page number of the individual child documents...Again, this defeats the purpose of what I am trying to accomplish...

    I am doing the following:

    -I have some one page stand-alone FM files that are used as appendices in various FM documents -- I need the page #s on this one-page doc to jive with the books

    -I have many multi-page documents (FM books) that are used as standalone docs. I need their page numbers to be correct (i.e. starting at page 1 and going forward)

    -I am creating one multi-book FM book (all-encompasing FM book that will include all standalone books and the one-page stand alone FM files named above) and I need its page #s to be correct (i.e. starting at page 1 and going foward, regardless of what the page #s in each book was).

    Notes: The content in the individual books gets updated regularly... which is why I don't want to be saving multiple versions of each doc to accomodate this page number issue, as then I have to remember to update 2 docs everytime I update a screen shot.  And I don't want to have to fiddle with page #s everytime I open/update any of the files above... that will become very bad very fast.

    I am 100% sure that there is a way to accomplish this... I am just missing something (important!).  I appreciate any/all help.

    TIA,

    Adriana

    Inspiring
    September 15, 2009

    I haven't played with this in 9, but if you're having problems, I'd revert to the SOP used in previous releases:

    Use a meta-book of the doc set that includes all the component books. Set up the numbering so that either all component books are not incremented (read from file) or restart the numbering at book borders so it stays the same as in the component books.

    Art

    Van Kurtz
    Inspiring
    July 16, 2009

    If you update the numbering from the master book and then open one of the books as a standalone book, I do not think the numbering will revert automatically to the standalone numbering; however, if you update the standalone book, I think it should then be the standalone numbering. In other words, I think you have to update each  book as you use it. I do not use master books, so this is all just a guess.

    Van