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February 10, 2023
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Reference? Label? Image cutoff? I dont know...

  • February 10, 2023
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I am using FM for the first time to modify the file from my customer.
Do you know how to resolve the Caution label (image) as shown in the image?

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    Inspiring
    February 10, 2023

    As a sidenote to Bob Niland's post, the "standard standard" on danger/warning/caution/notice is ANSI Z535.6. Most often regarded as the state-of-the-art benchmark.

    The PMS colors are stated here:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ANSI_Z535#/media/File:ANSI-Z535.1-2017-Safety-Colors.svg

    and here are some graphics how the signs should look like:

    https://www.semanticscholar.org/paper/Update-on-ANSI-Z535.6%3A-A-New-Standard-for-Safety-in-Hall/17f29f45fc2611d70420fff5ba17bd1863154fc9

    Being a standard, ANSI Z535.6 costs money but is probably one of the best investments you can do when it comes to tech doc standards (a few of the other one's being IEC/IEEE 83079-1:2019 and ISO 20607:2019).

    Regarding how to write danger/warning/caution/notice, the freely available standard on Simplified Technical English (ASD STE-100) has a great section on that (usable regardless of whether or not you use STE).

     

    Mats

     

    Bob_Niland
    Community Expert
    Community Expert
    February 10, 2023

    ANSI Z535.1-2022 appears to be the current ANSI for just the colors. It was supposed to be harmonized with ISO 3864-4:2011, but I don't know that this ever happened.
    Note that the #RRggBB values on the Wiki pages don't match for ANSI vs. ISO, and are in any case uncalibrated, so are going to appear unpredictably.
    What's really needed for FM work might be sRGB primaries that fall into tolerance for both specs (assuming the specs now overlap). The SVG imports would be tagged for IEC 61966-2-1:1999. It looks like SVG 1.1 and later (except SVG Tiny 1.2) support color profiles.

    I last needed to deal with all this a decade ago.

    K.Daube
    Community Expert
    Community Expert
    February 11, 2023

    The name of the original poster contains Korean characters - so the discussion about ANSI standard may be a side lane.

    Bob_Niland
    Community Expert
    Community Expert
    February 10, 2023

    If that is an imported-by-reference object, what file type is it?

    Apart from the distortion, I'm wondering if it meets regulatory and/or industry standards for CAUTION colors (if a color document).

    Participant
    February 10, 2023

    type is ".pcx"

    And, not really sure it is from industry standards. 

    Community Expert
    February 10, 2023

    Hi,

     

    I had not used pcx. Therefore I do not know, how well it is supported.

    Could you switch to a vector format and save as SVG or PDF? This is definitely better than a raster format.

    What's your FrameMaker version? The graphics filters are always improved, especially SVG.

     

    Best regards

     

    Winfried