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TOC third page problems

  • July 11, 2011
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Our TOC entries look like this:

Chapter 1 Introduction . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1-1

HOWEVER, if the TOC goes past the second page, they lose the leader dots:

Chapter 99 Florbling the Gromitz     99-1

(No, we don't really have 99 chapters!)

In my vast ignorance, I have no idea how to fix this. In their (presumably less vast) ignorance, neither do my Frame "experts" in-house. I've wandered around menus and Help without making any progress.

I'm running 8.0p266, non-structured.

Thanks in advance for any insight!

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    Correct answer Bob_Niland

    Yes, that made the leader dots appear! So the "Right" Master Page is bogus somehow. How do I debug this? I see no visible difference between the columns on right and left -- even when I make the change and watch the margins, there's no visible change. And the Format/Page Layout/Column Layout boxes look identical; it did give me a warning about "This document’s Left/Right master pages have an irregular column layout. Using the Column Layout command will remove this layout".

    Progress, at least! I guess I could just leave it using the "Left" Master Page, but that seems impure.


    How do I debug this?

    Provide more detail.

    What is the column layout (Number, Gap, Margins, is Side Heads turned on)?

    What is the Tab Stop spec for the xyzzyTOC formats that are failing on Right?

    I have seen problems when the tab stop is set to "exactly" the column width. This is a particular problem in that you don't directly declare a CW. It is computed from the page size, side margins and gap. Round-off and precision issues could cause the effective CW to be slightly smaller than you think it is.

    I usually set the stop to 0.01 inch less in the xyzzyTOC formats.

    You could try using a smaller tab stop and see if the dots magically appear.

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    phsiiiAuthor
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    July 11, 2011

    Thanks!

    Bob_Niland
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    Bob_NilandCommunity Expert
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    July 11, 2011

    Chapter 1 Introduction . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1-1

    I'll presume that the local paragraph format for that is Heading1TOC

    HOWEVER, if the TOC goes past the second page, ...

    Just to be clear; by this you mean that there is more than two pages of TOC entries?

    ... they lose the leader dots:

    Chapter 99 Florbling the Gromitz     99-1

    The top two things I'd would look for are:

    1. Is the local paragraph format for that also Heading1TOC

    2. Master Page: has the column layout for that third page

    provided a column too small for the leader tabbing?

    We use a custom first page for TOC, so the second and third pages would be based on different master pages, typically Left and Right. Since we try to limit TOCs to 2 pages max, when we bust to three, it usually is a mess, because the TOC.fm file may not have "Right" properly laid out for TOC use, as we never expect to need it.

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    phsiiiAuthor
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    July 11, 2011

    *THIRD* page. The TOC is already 2 pages. It's when it blows the second page and starts a third that the leader dots disappear. The entries are fine if they fit on the second page--that is, if I add an entry near the start of the document that forces the third page, an entry that was fine on page 2 now has no leader dots on page 3.

    Bob_Niland
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    Bob_NilandCommunity Expert
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    July 11, 2011

    *THIRD* page.

    Your response is to my original reply (before I caught my error).

    It's when it blows the second page and starts a third that the leader dots disappear.

    That suggests a master page issue similar to the example in my extended revised response, IF (big IF), you are using a custom initial TOC page, with subsequent pages reverting to default Left or Right layouts.

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