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FieryPantone
Legend
August 6, 2015
Question

Value of separation out of range

  • August 6, 2015
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what I'm doing

copy/pasting into XML Mind, a deeply nifty application that's intelligent enough to convert a FM table into a neat CALS table when pasting

what's special

the style for the content of the table specifies Forest Green as colour; this is in the Normal view, not least because I've never had occasion to explore colour views anyway

what happens

the paste works, but the (elusive) FM console pops up and tells me

AppData\Local\Tmp\Frm20FA.tmp (785) Value of separation out of range (10)

question

curiosity, not desparation :-} What does Value of separation out of range (10) mean? I know from other miffing that the error doesn't seem to have any impact on the content or appearance.

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FieryPantoneAuthor
Legend
January 4, 2016

Well, I entered a bug report Bug#4093614 - files with referenced graphics are rejected / flushed by Distiller and now have no idea whether anything is a) happening; b) ever going to happen

In the meantime, as part of limping towards an imminent deadline, I've used the 'publish to webhelp' trick – thanks, Arnis! – to make mifs of all the files in the latest troublesome book. Each individual .fm file distils to .pdf without problems, but distilling the book (even with all the components open) crashes … and the log file for the webhelp conversion is a long, long list of "Value of Separation out of range [10]" messages.

Not an encouraging start to the new working year!

Arnis Gubins
Arnis Gubins
Inspiring
January 4, 2016

IIRC, the book file itself also contains colour and separation settings. It might be easier to create a new book file and import the colours from one [good] file into all of the files of the book to ensure consistency.

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FieryPantoneAuthor
Legend
January 5, 2016

The suspect lines in the .mif are either in style definitions or in conditions, and the first occurrence is always in the generally unaccessible FM8 conditions. With (regrettably!) practice, I'm becoming pretty efficient at zapping through a set of .mif files with a text editor. However, I will now check the .book as well as the component .fm files.

Bob_Niland
Community Expert
Bob_NilandCommunity Expert
Community Expert
August 6, 2015

re: What does Value of separation out of range (10) mean?

The last time this came up, it seemed to be about the Table Separators.

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FieryPantoneAuthor
Legend
August 7, 2015

Not convinced, I'm afraid :-} taking my investigation that bit farther, I've turned up an allusion to Separations in the online documentation and it seems to be about plates for colour printing – logical enough, I suppose. But … the printer I use every day doesn't support separations; and to confuse me farther, the colour that most often shows up in an offending <FSeparation n> element seems to be flagged as 'do not print' in the separations set-up anyway.

I wondered if it might be an array-ish problem: original file decides to assign Forest Green to <FSeparation 10>, I edit the .mif to remove some rogue colours, FM concludes it not longer needs 10 separations…

Regrettably, I finished working on the book in question yesterday and apparently took the trouble to remove the problem in all the affected files; so I can't reproduce it. I'll make a note next time.

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