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January 17, 2015
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Embroidery and Illustrator

  • January 17, 2015
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I would love to use Illustrator to create vectors and convert for embroidery.  Can this be done?  Most embroidery software seems to be poorly designed or incredibly expensive. 

Correct answer kathysohn

You can use Illustrator to create the vector but you will still need an embroidery software, Embird is good!

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JETalmage
Inspiring
July 4, 2016

Egads. $3500 just for a vertical-market plug-in?

This is a case-in-point example of why, as a general rule, I've always avoided mission-critical dependency upon third-party add-ons. Given that Illustrator is now only licensed via perpetual rental, that's an example of compounded dependency: Dependency upon an add-on for a particular host program, the use of which is in turn dependent upon your continued rental payments.

I'm not in the embroidery business. But it's among my wife's pretty serious hobby habits. She's having good results with Embrillance StitchArtist. Better, in fact, than some results I've seen in projects jobbed out to commercial embroidery outfits.

http://embrilliance.com/

(The ugly truth is, just as in sign-vinyl cutting and other NC output environments, a shop may have the best equipment and full expertise in operating it, but their "front end" staff may still have little or no expertise in vector graphics. I have seen, for example, commercial embroidery shops take the clean vector artwork supplied to them, rasterize it, and autotrace it in their "digitizing" workflow.)

So I do the vector-based artwork in whatever drawing program I feel like using; she imports it into StitchArtist to configure the stitching.

StitchArtist is offered in three versions ("Levels") of increasing functionality, with cross-level upgrades (at break-even pricing) should you find you need or want the next "level" of built-in features. The middle version (Level 2) is well under $400 and provides all the functionality needed for someone drawing the initial vector artwork in a mainstream drawing program.

So you can do the initial drawing in Illustrator, Corel Draw, Inkscape (free), or whatever other decent Bezier drawing program with which you're comfortable, export it to SVG, import it to StitchArtist with a single click of the Vector... button in the options bar of its main window.

In StitchArtist, she (not I) arranges the paths in the desired stitch order, selects and assigns the plethora of stitch types and detail settings, previews the result in an automatically-generated raster-based shaded simulation of the final result, and even plays the stitching in a stitch-by-stitch animation to watch for and correct technical stitching problems (ex: entry/exit of "jump" stitches). The Level 2 version also provides enough Bezier manipulation capability to make any needed tweaks without having to go back to the drawing program. When satisfied, she exports the actual stitch file in the format appropriate for the target machine(s).

Creating the embroidery-suitable artwork is straightforward for any intermediate-level user of most any mainstream vector drawing program, because you're not going to be using any software-specific "live effects" or the convoluted constructs they generate. You just need to be able to draw clean, tidy, accurate and efficient paths (don't autotrace), understand the fundamental constructs of drawing with Bezier paths (open versus closed; simple versus compound, path direction, fill rules, etc.), and otherwise bear a common-sense awareness of the physical limitations and requirements of the fabric and thread medium.

For example, depending on the stitch plan, you may sometimes need a duplicate path; a compound path to be filled with "satin" stitches and another to outline it with "running" stitches (which pretty much exhausts my knowledge of the myriad stitch types, patterns, and settings.)

JET

Larry G. Schneider
Community Expert
Community Expert
July 4, 2016

Thanks for the heads-up on the app, JET. Been looking for something like this for my sister.

Mike_Gondek10189183
Community Expert
Community Expert
January 19, 2015

I would try this, looks very promising, but has not been updated in awhile.

http://www.embroideryi2.com/adobe/index.htm

What embroidery software do you have. Appears .dst is the most popular format.

Participant
July 3, 2016

I saw this too but it lists the price at this time $3495.00 Really?! Embroidery i2 Plugin for Adobe Illustrator - Hirsch

Mike_Gondek10189183
Community Expert
Community Expert
July 5, 2016

No wonder the price is so difficult to find on embroideryi2 , thanks of posting the link. For $3,500 and no mention of if this works with CC, does not seem logical to invest that much

JETalmage
Inspiring
January 18, 2015

Embroidery machines require formats which Illustrator does not export. Some embroidery software can import paths from some formats which Illustrator can export. But just drawing the shapes doesn't really get you very far.

The embroidery machine is dependent upon a file which plots coordinates, in correct sequence, for each stitch. It's not just a simple matter of drawing an outline and then telling the machine to "fill it with stitches." Because there are many kinds of stitch patterns, all of varying density, the code driving the machine has to explicitly tell the machine where to insert the needle for each stitch.

That, in a nutshell, is why you need purpose-built software for designing embroidery patterns with quality results.

JET

Silkrooster
Legend
January 18, 2015

I think I would check the program that does the embroidering and see what formats it supports and what version of that format.

Inspiring
January 17, 2015

Are you talking about an embroidery pattern?  Or are you talking about artwork to be embroidered in color?