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February 11, 2010
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How to get BRIGHT Colors for print?

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I'm working on a large format design. I'm using CMYK color space. I printed a proof on glossy paper and the colors are not bright at all. This is a design for children and I need the colors to show really bright and shiny. How do I accomplish that?

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May 26, 2020

My hp Photosmart 5520 printer has new cartridges.  I've aligned and cleaned the printer heads several times.  Scanned the results as per instructions and they come out well on all colours.  But when I print a picture the yellow isn't coming out and evetythin* looks blueish green. Any tips?  

Monika Gause
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Community Expert
May 26, 2020

"My hp Photosmart 5520 printer has new cartridges."

 

This thread is a decade old. So first of all: please create a new thread.

 

Please tell us your system and version.

Which color mode is your file?

How did you set up the yellow?

Which color management options are set up in Illustrator?

How is color handled when priniting?

 

And please show a close up photo of the print.

Inspiring
March 22, 2018

No CMYK digital printer can hit the colors you want. Its not the glossy paper or matte paper, CMYK is not able to print bright vibrant colors. Some digital printers now have green, orange and violet in addition to CMYK to help print really vibrant colors but unless the printer has those available to him(her) or her(him) its just not going to happen. Trying to coordinate that with a China printer is going to be difficult at best.

John was right on, monitor and print can not be matched - with some colors, usually the really bright vibrant colors like the ones you want. Some printers, not the printer guy(girl) but the mechanical printer and inks in that printer can print some pretty vibrant colors but most do a poor job of hitting a really bright rich yellows or neon green or ultra violet. That's just the nature of the CMYK system, ink pigments, etc.

JETalmage
Inspiring
February 12, 2010
How to get BRIGHT Colors for print?

Put BRIGHT colors in the press.

In a later post, you mention that this is for printing on fabric. Are you sure the printing method that is going to be used is regular CMYK process?

CMYK separation may be entirely inappropriate for what you are doing. You may need to be using spot colors. You need to obtain specific information from the printing vendor about how this is going to be printed.

JET

pchiniqueAuthor
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February 12, 2010

Thanks so much for your answers. All I know is that they use a big roll of fabric. I think is Inkjet print but I really don't know. 

I only used spot colors for logos though. 

JETalmage
Inspiring
February 12, 2010
I think is Inkjet print but I really don't know.

You need to know. If you design something for print, you have to know something about how it will be printed.

"Printed on fabric from a big roll" doesn't define the printing process. Bedclothes and curtains are printed on fabric from a big roll. But that's a whole different world away from ordinary CMYK offset printing. Large format low-quantity inkjet printing can be done on fabric from a big roll. Some such devices use inks that fairly replicate ordinary CMYK offset printing. Others use specialized inks (dyes, really) or additional colors (six color is not uncommon) to achieve more brilliance, and those devices often prefer RGB input.

You need to talk to the printing vendor about his preferred input. He may tell you to work in RGB, and may even have a color management provile for you to use.

JET

February 12, 2010

It's not going to be easy to recommend anything without knowing what printer and what RIP ( if any ) you are using.  It is possible to get bright colors, but choosing glossy paper in the print dialog may not be enough.  There are techniques you can try that involve RGB ( believe it or not ), but even then the color depends on the print drivers, the number of print cartridges, and the type of printer itself.

I personally rely on a RIP and, in combination with a color management system and a calibrated RIP, get very nice and consistent color accuracy.  Even with that, colors on the monitor will never be matched in print because of the dynamics involved with reflective ( ink on paper ) vs. transmissive ( video RGB color viewed on the monitor ) color.  If your monitor is set to 9300° white point, then color will appear very bright on the monitor, but will never be achievable in print.

pchiniqueAuthor
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February 12, 2010

Thanks so much John for such a fast response.

Here is the thing, I'm working with a client and he did print a proof on a place like kinkos and like I said before the colors were like wash off and not bright. His printer is actually in China and I don't have their contact info. Do you think is best if I try to contact that printer and ask them?

Also I don't know what you mean by RIP?? what is that?

I guess my concern is how much is up to me to get those bright colors or is up to the printer as well.

Thanks a lot.