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monicaf
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December 28, 2023
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Improving basic functions is more important than improve the AI

  • December 28, 2023
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Hello, I'm working with Adobe suite and it is fun when it works properly, especially if I can save time.
I am here to describe 3 little and basic improvements I really wish will be developed ASAP.


1. Type on path tool
As it is now, is a nigthmare, my requests are:

  • make the handles tool easier to control the text direction or position (es. around a circle when it doesn't look perfectly centered and I need to move it by hand). Sometims is very hard just to see them.
  • Remove type from tha path
    What happened to this function? Why is it not possible to remove the type from the path and have back the path as path and not as type window?

 

2. Black CMYK
Please add the option to have CMYK Black and not only the black as default wich is only 100% K
(this is needed also in InDesign app)

 

3. Export
the PNG or JPEG exported by Illustrator have not the same quality than exported in Photoshop, even if you use 100% quality (no matter wich way you export the file).
For now I solve it by open the .ai page of the file in photoshop and I save it for web from Photoshop.
The quality is much better and it is also lighter

Thanks!

    Correct answer Monika Gause

    1: If it doesn't work for you, then you are doing it wrong. This is version 2023, but it also works in 2024: https://youtu.be/WCxQVfVbgY8

     

    2: You can set up your custom template, library or new document profile that contains the colors you need.

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    Bobby HendersonCommunity Expert
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    December 28, 2023

    Regarding #1, out of habit I'll usually keep a separate copy of a text string being applied to a path. If you're open to buying Illustrator plugins Astute Graphics has a Reform Text plugin that works better (and is easier to use) than the stock text-on-path effects in Illustrator and other vector graphics applications.

     

    Regarding #2, the total ink limit values for a Rich Black are going to change depending on the printing process and printing surface. It is pretty easy to create a custom swatch that includes a CMYK Black carrying specific values.

     

    Regarding #3, if you're seeing color/brightness differences in JPEG/PNG images exported from Illustrator and Photoshop this could come from multiple factors. Are the color settings synchronized between Illustrator & Photoshop? Differences in document color models (CMYK or RGB) and the color profiles used in the document setup can cause changes. Another factor: Photoshop is already operating in the pixel-based realm; the results seen on screen before and after JPEG/PNG export are going to be more consistent and predictable.

      monicaf
      monicafAuthor
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      December 28, 2023

      Thank you for your reply.
      Mine are some suggestions that I would like to have in the app.
      about #1 in the working process I keep several copies of the steps, but sometimes the client ask changes and maybe it's the time you didn't keep a copy. I really don't understand why the basic function (release the type from path) is gone in the latest editions.
      #2 I know it's easy but I have to do it in every file I work with. It's annoying sometimes.
      The deafult swatches there are many colours, it will be a nice help to have included the CMYK in all the graphic app. It is not just about rich black or printing process. If you work in HD the difference is very noticeable. Also if you make a project using the default black 100K and you need to export it for the web it will not be the RGB full balck (or #000) but something else.
      #3. It is not about colour or profile or mode, but about number of pixels, the quality in the compression, it feels more bluring and not defined.

       

      Monika Gause
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      Monika GauseCommunity Expert
      Community Expert
      December 28, 2023

      #2: 100K cannot be converted to RGB 000. That is impossible.

      Monika Gause
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      Monika GauseCommunity Expert
      Community Expert
      December 28, 2023

      Please post feature requests to https://illustrator.uservoice.com

       

      As for 1: in order to get the path back, select just the path with the group selection tool or the direct selection tool and copy, then paste.

      As for 2: You can set up any swatch you want. Just define the values. The demands for saturated black are quite different according to the paper or pürocess you use. So just set it up as you need it.

      monicaf
      monicafAuthor
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      December 28, 2023

      Unfortunately, what you suggest as 1. is not correct, I already tried that, but you just get a path for type (as a window type), You cannot use it anymore as normal path as it was before to insert the type., adding stroke or color ect.
      2. Ok I know I can have....but I have to do it manually and CMYK black has to have that value. So my request is to save time and have it as default palette instead of balck 100K

       

      Monika Gause
      Community Expert
      Monika GauseCommunity ExpertCorrect answer
      Community Expert
      December 28, 2023

      1: If it doesn't work for you, then you are doing it wrong. This is version 2023, but it also works in 2024: https://youtu.be/WCxQVfVbgY8

       

      2: You can set up your custom template, library or new document profile that contains the colors you need.

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