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October 25, 2008
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Is there a way to create linear spirals?

  • October 25, 2008
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Another spiral question that's been nagging me: does Illustrator provide any way to create a linear (Archimedes) spiral? I'm trying to create a spiral where the distance between the windings is constant. It looks like Illustrator only makes logarithmic spirals, where the angle of the windings is constant but the distance between grows bigger with each successive winding.

If not, are there third-party plug-ins or solutions of any kind?

I suppose I could write the curve in Postscript, but that seems like work. :)
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    November 3, 2008
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Archimedean_spiral.svg#file
    Participating Frequently
    October 30, 2008
    This method may give a little more control. Here I started with a series of concentric circles, and created a brush which represents only one revolution, which rises the same distance that the rings increase in diameter.

    When the concentric rings are stroked with the art brush they combine to create a spiraling effect.

    Participant
    October 30, 2008
    I've found the art brush to work pretty well too. You would think that there would be an easier way to accomplish something so seemingly simple.
    Participating Frequently
    October 29, 2008
    I was actually playing with the 3D version when I saw your post come up. I had already done the pattern brush version, but hadn't made an image yet.

    The 3d version is a lot of fun to play with in alternate views.
    Kurt Gold
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    Community Expert
    October 29, 2008
    Thanks for the sketches, Jean.

    I was too busy preparing stollens which will then be scorched as always.

    ;-)
    Participating Frequently
    October 29, 2008
    BTW, you can get a better center on the spiral above, I just didn't monkey with it much.

    Theoretically, you should get a more controllable spiral by mapping the same art, via a symbol, to a cone created by revolving an angled line, then viewing it from above.

    But again, Illustrator 3D leaves a lot to be desired



    Apparently Illustrator outlines the strokes of the climbing angled lines, and trashes the accuracy of the original linework in the mapping process.
    Participating Frequently
    October 29, 2008
    Hmm... I was wondering when someone would bring that up.

    Kurt Gold
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    Community Expert
    October 29, 2008
    - Draw a horizontal stroked line, 200 mm wide for example

    - Select the line and Copy Move, Vertical Movement: 5 mm, for example

    - Hit Command+D as often as you like, for example 8 times

    - Direct select all anchor points at the right ends of the lines

    - Hit Enter and set vertical movement to 5 mm

    - Select all and create an Art brush out of the selection

    - Draw a stroked circle, 60 mm diameter, for example

    - Apply the Art brush

    This is, of course, no Archimedes spiral, no it's the so-called Circular Probert Spiral. It was originally discussed in the Illustrator Windows forum some years ago.
    Participating Frequently
    October 29, 2008
    The Spiral tool was introduced in Illustrator 6.0, and in those days I think the tool had the capability of making Archimedes spirals.

    Here's an image used in the AI 6 User Guide:

    http://www.newmango.com/test/spiral.png

    The description says "Hold down the Control key to increase or decrease the amount by which each wind of the spiral decreases relative to the previous wind."

    In recent versions, that value is a percentage, and I'm thinking that in 6.0 it may have been an absolute value. And Adobe has since disallowed the Control key, so now it does nothing. You can enter the decay rate in the Spiral options dialog, but it has to have a value of 5% or greater.
    Steve Fairbairn
    Inspiring
    October 28, 2008
    http://www.pixentral.com/show.php?picture=1cXMXReDQoa9AsM5CHmdEMfzUfIO

    Here's a shot of another "faux-spiral" done with the "compasses" method. It's easy to construct and completely accurate (see how the stroke widths kiss exactly). Like I said, not a true spiral but good enough for most people and much smoother than anything that Twirl and Twist can do.