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September 6, 2024
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Print PDF duller than JPG

  • September 6, 2024
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Hello,

 

I have saved a CMYK JPG image to TIF in photoshop then imported to a document in illustrator. 

 

After finishing the artwork layout and exporting as a print PDF the image looks slightly duller. On the attached file the original JPG is on the left hand side and print PDF (image converted to TIF) on the right. 

I have tried different conversions and destinations on the Illustrator export but nothing seems to match the brightness of the original JPG. 

 

Can anyone advise?

 

Thank you in advance! 

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Brad @ Roaring Mouse
Community Expert
Community Expert
September 6, 2024

Photoshop is not doing this. It all depends on how, where and if you are assigning profiles.

There are lots of balls to keep in the air here.

First thing, what are your Color Settings in Illustrator, in particular what do do with CMYK Embedded Profiles.

Second, did you embed a Color Profile when saving your TIF and JPG. e.g. If one has an embedded profile and the other doesn't, then they will be treated differently in Illustrator depending on how the above settings deal with them.

Is the CMYK profile assigned to your images the same or different than what is assigned to the Illustrator document?

Here's an example scenario:

Say one file (e.g the TIF) has a GRACOL profile assigned to it, and the other (say, your JPG) was saved from PS without embedding a profile at all (untagged). Place these in an Illustrator file with Color Settings of US Sheetfed Coated, with your Illustrator Color Settings set to honor CMYK Embedded profiles.

Your TIF will display as GRACOL (and indicate as such in your Links panel) 

Your JPG, since it is untagged (indicated merely as CMYK in your Links panel), will be assume the profile of the Illustrator document, hence US Sheetfed Coated.

This will cause each to appear differently: The JPG, as US Sheetfed Coated, will probably appear darker than the TIF on the same page.

 

All this being said, this day and age, it's better to keep your image as RGB to maintain its original vibrancy, and allow the CMYK converion to happen downstream.

 

 

 

 

Monika Gause
Community Expert
Community Expert
September 6, 2024

Is the color management synchronized in the Creative Cloud?

Did you convert the color profile at any time in the workflow? Import/Place or Exporting to PDF?

Which app do you use to view the PDF? Acrobat?

Anubhav M
Community Manager
Community Manager
September 6, 2024

Hello @Joyful_nature5C80,

We understand that encountering technical issues can be frustrating. Would you mind sharing more details, like the exact version of the OS/Illustrator and public links to a sample AI/JPEG/TIFF file after uploading it to Dropbox/Google Drive/etc., so we can investigate this further?


Looking forward to hearing from you.

 

Thanks,

Anubhav

Participant
September 6, 2024

Hello Anubhav,

 

OS: Sonoma 14.5 
Illurstartor 2024 - 28.1

 

On looking at the files again the TIF is much lighter than the JPG - please see attached screenshots. Would this mean it is a photoshop issue? 

 

Having said this I have exported both the TIF and JPG images through illurstrator and both look dull meaning it is still an export issue...

Anubhav M
Community Manager
Community Manager
September 6, 2024

Hello @Joyful_nature5C80,

Are the original JPEG/TIFF files in the same color space (RGB/CMYK) as the exported files? If not, please try changing them to see if it helps.

Looking forward to hearing from you.

 

Thanks,

Anubhav