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sPretzel
Inspiring
January 25, 2017
Question

Space before paragraph

  • January 25, 2017
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Hello,

There is a behaviour I don't understand in "Space before paragraph". Perhaps someone can explain to me what is going on.

1- Create a text box. On the first line, type a word in font size 12pt, Times New Roman. Press enter (carriage return). Go to the Paragraph menu and make sure "Space before paragraph" and "Space after paragraph" are set to 0.

2- On the second line, type a word in font size 50pt, Times New Roman. Go to the Paragraph menu and in "Space before paragraph", type -10pt. The line does not move up at all. Press enter.

3- On the third line, type a word in font size 12pt, Times New Roman. Make sure "Space before paragraph" is set to 0 for this line. Press enter.

4- On the fourth line, type a word in font size 50pt, Times New Roman. Go to the Paragraph menu and in "Space before paragraph", type -10pt. The line moves up.

Why does the line in #2 not move up as it does in #4? I expect the second line to move up by 10pt.

Thanks.

This is for CS4.

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    SJRiegel
    Legend
    January 25, 2017

    I cannot test this is CS4, but in CC2017, the text moves up exactly as it should.

    maybe someone with CS4 could runs the same test to see if they can duplicate your problem.

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    sPretzelAuthor
    Inspiring
    January 25, 2017

    Actually, I must rephrase the original post (I couldn't edit it). SJRiegel, please try again the following, if you don't mind:

    Hello,

    There is a behaviour I don't understand in "Space before paragraph". Perhaps someone can explain to me what is going on.

    1- Create a text box. On the first line, type a word in font size 12pt, Times New Roman. Press enter (carriage return). Go to the Paragraph menu and make sure "Space before paragraph" and "Space after paragraph" are set to 0.

    2- On the second line, type a word in font size 50pt, Times New Roman. Go to the Paragraph menu and in "Space before paragraph", type -40pt. The line moves up some but not by all 40pt. Press enter.

    3- On the third line, type a word in font size 12pt, Times New Roman. Make sure "Space before paragraph" is set to 0 for this line. Press enter.

    4- On the fourth line, type a word in font size 50pt, Times New Roman. Go to the Paragraph menu and in "Space before paragraph", type -40pt. The line moves up 40 pt.

    Why does the line in #2 not move up as much as the line in #4? I expect the second line to move up by 40pt too.

    Thanks.

    This is for CS4.

    John Mensinger
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    John MensingerCommunity Expert
    Community Expert
    January 25, 2017

    Hmmm...I suppose I've reproduced it (in CC 2017).

    If the question is "why?"

    I don't know.

    But I have suspicions that it has something to do with conflict between a negative Space Before and auto-leading.

    Maybe I'm missing something, but honestly, I can't imagine a scenario in which anyone would attempt or need to set type this way, especially in Illustrator.

    So I'd be more inclined to as "Why...does it matter?"

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