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Stop the beeping!!!

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May 5, 2010
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Seems like if I have something selected and use the keyboard shortcut to zoom in, the hold space bar to get the Hand tool, Illustrator CS 5 beeps. There seems to be so much beeping in the app that I've turned my sound off.

Any way to stop the beeping aside from not using the tools Illustrator gave us!?

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Only satisfying solution (apart from installing additional software) that I've found is to just use Alt Gr+scroll instead of alt+scroll. Alt Gr doesnt seem to activate the menu.

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dgoerndt

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Just for anyone's info, I'm using both Illustrator CS5 and PS CS5 Extended and neither exibit the beeping using the key combo.

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scottjwood

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The alt menu thing has been driving me freaking nuts. The posts above about the autohotkey fix really works well. Thank you so much for that!

This is the fix I used in my autohotkey script:

~alt up::send {alt down}{alt up}

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Anonymous

The annoying thing is not actually just the beeping. The problem is still incredibly annoying even if you don't have speakers, because it highlights the menu (unintentionally) which prevents you from continuing to work as usual. If I want to budge an item or do any command, it won't let me do it if the menu is highlighted. It takes a second to figure out what's going on, then you need to hit alt again to deselect, and then you can continue as usual.

It completely interrupts workflow.

Adobe is completely insane for not fixing this. It never happened in CS2, CS3, or CS4.

If people really don't get it, try repeating the steps I posted above to make it happen.

Again, we are NOT looking for a workaround. They're all just silly.

Mellifluous-Irony

Participating Frequently

aranaaa:
"Again, we are [I am]NOT looking for a workaround. They're all just silly."

We understand your frustration.

It is outrageous that this bug ever existed and that it has not been delt with.

Adobe has been aware of this problem for at least 9 months.

While it seems logical to make fixing this a high priority,

they have likely determined that it is not cost effective to deal with it in CS5.

With that said I think the official response you are waiting for would sound like:

"You can expect this issue to be resolved in CS6."

In reality this problem has a fix: AutoHotkey.

Not only does it fix the problem,

it removes most limitations Illustrator

has regarding hotkeys.

Transfer the energy you are spending here to learn

the relatively simple coding of AutoHotkey,

or copy and paste it from one of my posts above.

Give yourself the gift they refuse to give :-]

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Anonymous

windows users can goto the sound panel and deactivate the beep. I personally have never heard it... so idk what beep it is.

but its one of these two...

maumorenob

Participant

Yes, you have it here, actually is the "Default Beep", that beeps in Illustrator.

I deactivated and works, no more beep.

Mellifluous-Irony

Participating Frequently

We know of many ways to avoid producing the beep at this point;

but I made my own tone to replace the windows default beep

and thought I'd post it :-]

A-tone

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Anonymous

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Only satisfying solution (apart from installing additional software) that I've found is to just use Alt Gr+scroll instead of alt+scroll. Alt Gr doesnt seem to activate the menu.

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Anonymous

Blibbers: What's Alt Gr?

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Anonymous

Alt Gr is the alt key to the right of your spacebar. It works great for zooming with scrolling. Though I don't think it works as a general modifier within Illustrator for other commands.

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Anonymous

One more thing, it would be great if we could get a real fix for this.

It's funny how some people are just saying "turn off the default Windows beep" or something of the like.

Other solutions might be:

1.) Ripping apart your sound card

2.) Smashing your speakers in with a hammer

3.) Becoming deaf

If these don't sound like solutions to you, perhaps we should keep encouraging Adobe to fix this problem.

MicahBurke

Author

Community Expert

Aranaaa... thanks for making my day. You said exactly what I was thinking when I first read the replies.

I did speak with Adobe's Illustrator project manager and the dev team at MAX 2010. They were unaware of the issue, I demonstrated it on my laptop for them, needless to say it was a shocker. I joined the Illustrator beta test team and have yet to download the beta. Will update the thread if/when I do.

Micah Burke

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Anonymous

Yes, well let's keep this topic active until we get a solution. People are paying a lot of money for Adobe products and that's because the products are the best in the world at what they do. There's no good reason why these things should be fine with CS4 but not with CS5. I use Photoshop/Illustrator/InDesign/etc on our university computers and I really wish they hadn't "upgraded".

For anyone still wondering what this problem is or trying to reproduce it, this is how you do it:

(Obviously your speakers will need to be on. Try Photoshop or Illustrator. It doesn't matter.)

1.) Hold down alt (notice that the file/edit/etc menus are now underlined)

2.) Scroll the mouse wheel (because you want to zoom)

3.) Release alt, because you're done zooming (notice how the file menu is now highlighted)

4.) Press space, because now you want to pan

5.) DING

Oh damn, looks like I can't do a routine function like panning after zooming without hearing that sound.

Before we can continue to move forward, let's all keep in mind the difference between a fix and a workaround. We are looking for a fix here.

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Anonymous

Can we get an update on this?

This is insanely annoying and it constantly interrupts workflow for PC users.

That Adobe employee said he was looking into it months ago and never posted about it again...

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Annabelle222

Participant

I can’t understand why there is only one topic about that problem. I mean... it’s a huge bug, totally annoying, and it wasn’t there in CS4 and previous versions.

I encountered this problem recently, because I’m used to work on Os X and I’ve just switched to Windows. When I first noticed this bug, I didn’t understand what was happening. I was in InDesign, I used alt+scroll, then wanted to use another keyboard shortcut, as always, and it didn’t work. I was like.. what’s the problem?!?! Then, I noticed that when I used alt+scroll, the focus stayed on the menu bar, stopping me of using whatever shortcut I wanted to use after that.

Those kind of things make me so angry! How can they release a new version of a software that have bugs that weren’t there before? I think it’s unacceptable... it makes me wonder if I should go back to CS4. Fortunatly, somebody here found a great solution, but I still got another huge bug I must deal with everydays (weird blank page that soooo often appears in my linked text boxes when I make books... it makes all the text shifts on the wrong pages and I have to ask to recompose the story everytime... so annoying).

Anyways, I’m sorry to pollute this topic with my moaning... I just wanted to release my frustration about that, and say thanks to Mellifluous-Irony for his great solution.

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kemch1013

Participating Frequently

Wow I wasn't expecting a whole post on this... thought it was just me getting the beep. Has Adobe officially addressed this yet? Every time it beeps at me it makes me think of those conditioning experiments where they give a rat an electric shock to let it know its doing something unintended. The beeping is annoying. Zooming in and out seems less intuitive. I'm surprised the reasoning for Adobe switching up this behavior from CS4 was to comply with Windows standard key functions. I mean, who really uses the alt key to access menus on a regular basis? Power users and programmers... but illustrators? What's next? CTRL Y for redo?

I'm going to do the 'double' alt method and if I can't get used to that I'll just disable the sound in windows. Adobe User Experience dept where are you?

Mellifluous-Irony

Participating Frequently

The one line script above your post will press alt again for you.

While my post explaining how to use the scripts looks long, installing AutoHotkey and copying + pasting your choice script should take less than 5 minutes. Then you can continue doing what you have always done, without beeping

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