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February 13, 2017
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Turning text into shape for outline then bringing it to front of Logo design Help please

  • February 13, 2017
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Hi

I am designing a Logo for my Business and am having to teach myself Illustrator within a very tight timeframe. I have learned how to outline text with stroke to make wording look good by converting the text to an object rather than as text type as it gives a much smarter finish, but I am then struggling with moving the finished object to the Logo as it puts the wording across but it goes white across the logo for the part that is on the rest of logo. I have tried to ungroup the layers of entire design and then highlight the word object and bring to front but it doesn't work. I have tried CTRL X and CTRL F and still same problem. I really need this finished asap as need to send Logo to Business card maker.

Anyone who can help me pleeeeeeease. Thanks so much.

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Ray Yorkshire
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February 13, 2017

Maybe get a free Dropbox account and upload the illustrator file to there, then put a link to it  here,

I'm sure someone can sort it out easier and quicker that way

jenpSugarAuthor
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February 13, 2017

Lol thanks for that Ray. Good idea. I have kind of sorted the crimping issue thanks, except that I only want it top and bottom of the banner not sides. Keeping trying with these problems. Its just consuming hours of my time when i really have other things that are overdue.

jane-e
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February 13, 2017

Its just consuming hours of my time when i really have other things that are overdue.

Yes, that is to be expected when you jump into a project and try to learn Illustrator on the fly at the same time!

All the same, you've learned a lot quickly, it appears, even though it's been in bits and pieces.

Ray Yorkshire
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February 13, 2017

just  right click on the Sugar etc .. and choose  Arrange  > Bring to front

Maybe it is already at the front and they have used a Different blending mode to normal , you could try changing it back

Window > Transparency

As regards the ''crimping''  around the pastry edges

maybe they did something like this on the stroke

Window > Stroke

jenpSugarAuthor
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February 13, 2017

I have tried the layers and put the wording onto a separate layer and moved it across and same problem. I have then ungrouped them and selected the wording set and requested to bring it forward and...same problem. Nothing seems to work!

As for the crimping I think you misunderstood me Ray Yorkshire...I was referring to the bottom of the banner having a wavy edge but the rest of the ribbon not. It isn't these settings as checked that as chose those settings when putting the white border around the circle.

Thank you so much for tips though

Monika Gause
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February 13, 2017

This really looks like you're working with transparency and a lot of groupung and appearances. So you're trying to combine different tutorials without having understood the principles first. That won't work.

You might want to try and find a graphic designer in your area to cooperate on this. Looks like you're offering printing services. So there might be a chance that this could turn into a future collaboration. And most designers love chocolate BTW.

Simmer1
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February 13, 2017

Hi JenPsugar,

This what I think you meant from your title.

This is achieved by setting the text fill to non (hit the square with the diagonal red line) this will make the text hollow.

Next set the stroke to desired with and colour.

Also you will need to have your logo and the text on separate Layers to make navigation easier.

Hope this helps!

Sim

Jacob Bugge
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February 13, 2017

jenpsugar,

Apart from what Doug and Monika said, as an alternative/independent way based on my (mis)understanding of this,

I have learned how to outline text with stroke to make wording look good by converting the text to an object rather than as text type as it gives a much smarter finish,

you can add a stroke to live Type and keep it editable, by using Add New Stroke in the Appearance palette flyout, and depending on whether you wish half of the stroke to cover the outermost part of the fill or not, you can keep it above the actual Type (fill) in the main Appearance palette (Characters) or drag it down below it, which is one way of doing it, another being to use the different stroke alignment options (combined with the value of the possibly halved stroke weight), the latter being an easy way if you wish to have the stroke only extend inwards from the boundary of the live Type (fill).

Simmer1
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February 13, 2017

Hi JenPsugar,

Also bear in mind that once you convert the text to an object you will be restricted in regards to editing the stroke and fill colours. So it is sometimes best to get as close to the finished article before converting. Especially if you are new to the program.

Kind regards,

Sim

Monika Gause
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February 13, 2017

Can you please tell us this in step by step?

Or better: show something.

Maybe you're just working in too many layers. So open the layers panel and watch where you place stuff. It might need to be moved to the top layer.

Doug A Roberts
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February 13, 2017

can you show screenshots of what you mean?

jenpSugarAuthor
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February 13, 2017

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