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June 4, 2026
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Usage of credits for generating views using Turntable in Illustrator

  • June 4, 2026
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Why are the AI filters Adobe is releasing now getting more expensive? Ya, I get the server charges, but is every filter from here on out going to cost a subscription plus a ton of credits?
Is it just me or do others sense that Adobe is getting close to charging by the minute to use their IP?
So I guess my question is, what are others thinking about this and what is your threshold before jumping  ship?

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    Community Expert
    June 11, 2026

    I think a lot of people have unrealistic expectations for what generative-AI can do, particularly with abstract vector-based graphics. The source imagery being generated is pixel-based, even if it is sampling a vector-based element.

     

    I don't have a good opinion of AI-generated artwork. That's because it has been a growing headache in my work. I see a lot of AI-generated "logos" from clients that all need a LOT of repair work. It's one thing to have to manually trace/draw clean vector paths over the top of a pixel-based image supplied by the client. It's another thing to have to fix odd glitches and hallucinations baked into the artwork AND have to trace it as well. Too many people are leaning into AI like it's a cheat or a hustle. Lots of business people are salivating over the idea that AI could replace lots of employees and balloon their profit margins. These people are chasing after a mirage.

     

    The junk I've been seeing gives me a better sense of job security. On the other hand, I don't want growing amounts of my work day spent cleaning up and converting garbage artwork into production ready vector artwork.

     

    Regarding "jumping ship": that's easier said than done, depending on one's graphics work flow. I've used multiple vector graphics applications for many years. None of the apps on the market are a worthwhile replacement for Adobe Illustrator. I emphasize that point much more strongly when the artwork is professionally printed. CorelDRAW and Affinity Designer both run into some serious limitations in that regard. I can start a project in either one of those apps, but I would probably still have to do all the final work in Illustrator and create the PDF files for print work using Illustrator.

     

    Just like Adobe, the other companies are trying to bundle AI-related stuff into their apps. And they're charging additional fees for it too. Canva bought Serif and now gives away the Affinity App for free. But it's a loss leader. The hook is the AI-related stuff inside. That requires the user to sign up for a paid Canva subscription and face the same generative credits situation.

    zafdaddyAuthor
    Known Participant
    June 11, 2026

    Thanks for that perspective. I continue to ask fellow creatives what’s the general take on AI and the Adobe credits on top of an already pricey subscription. There is an AI balloon growing very quickly and affecting lives significantly. 
    We just release a very creative product and many of the very first responses from customers was “was this done with AI?” Which tells me that customers care and that they absolutely can not believe anything they see anymore.
    We are now about to do a marketing campaign on how it was created showing proof that it was done for humans by humans.
    What a weird time to be a designer.
    This may not be the most ideal place to have these conversations but it at least started with an Adobe linked question.
    I have been wondering why there are not a few more “boos” at MAX when they present more and more AI camouflaged as a time saving tool but leans far more into replacing the artist.
    Maybe at the next MAX conference they will have some after hours psych counselors helping creatives overcome the stress of having to use a powerful creative tool that is also trying to eliminate the creative.

    Community Expert
    June 11, 2026

    AI tech has definitely has inflicted a negative hit to the value of human creative workers. If the people running the visual creative industry aren't careful they'll see a steep decline in the number of young people choosing this as a profession in the years ahead. Heck, this could already be happening. "Graphic designer? No thanks, I can make a lot more money being a plumber or diesel truck mechanic." Then the bosses will be more dependent on the dreck produced by AI bots/agents (as more experienced people like me age-out and retire).

     

    The economy in the United States has benefited greatly from the knock-on effects of American movies, music and art greatly influencing world popular culture. Some of Adobe's earliest tech came from the motion picture visual effects industry. America's advantages at creative innovation cannot be preserved with AI-tech. That stuff doesn’t care about borders and loyalties to any nation.

     

    I think some business people are finally waking up to realize the financial math they're facing with AI. Automate away enough human employees with AI and the company will have no customers. 70% of the economy is driven by consumer spending, and those consumers need paying jobs in order to spend money. I'm afraid a lot of retail investors are going to get burned by these new IPOs of AI companies in the stock market. The price valuations are insane; they depend on seemingly impossible earnings scenarios to justify. Most of the stock market's gains over the past couple or so years have been a bet on AI. I worry a big crash is coming soon.

    Anubhav M
    Community Manager
    Community Manager
    June 10, 2026

    Hi everyone,
     

    We understand that Turntable results in Illustrator may not always meet expectations. The best way to help us improve is to give feedback directly on individual views. Open More options on any view and use:

    • Good result — Upvote the view and share detailed feedback in the form that appears.
    • Poor result — Downvote the view and share what didn't work in the form that appears.
    • Report variation — Flag the view if it's inappropriate, and select the reason in the form.


    Every piece of feedback feeds directly into improving Turntable in future releases. Feel free to reach out if you have any other questions. We’d be happy to help.

    Anubhav

    zafdaddyAuthor
    Known Participant
    June 10, 2026

    And how many credits does it cost to give feedback?

    zafdaddyAuthor
    Known Participant
    June 9, 2026

    We did the math on the credits cost/required for every turn and it’s kaaarazy. Especially when you get crappy results. 
    I’ve been wondering why there are not a few more “boo’s” at Adobe Max when they come out and say that they are thinking about the artist when they put these AI options out there. Really?
    I don’t know, Affinity is looking better and better every day. But so much Adobe muscle memory to overcome.

    5AD.ink
    Participating Frequently
    June 10, 2026

    Adobe muscle memory keeps me here too. I can just do the thing, rather than fight the program to do the thing. I was optimistic about Affinity’s “Photoshop reskin” but the changes were purely cosmetic. 

    Community Expert
    June 12, 2026

    I try pointing amateur users toward the Affinity App as an alternative to Canva or various AI tools. These are people who have only occasional needs to “DIY” their own graphics work. If they build their artwork using the vector-based Designer part of Affinity there’s at least a decent chance I can get the artwork to port over to Illustrator. It’s far less of a hassle than dealing with the trash I see exported from Canva (the PDF files it generates are a disaster to try editing; its exported SVG files are even worse).

    Despite the free price and relative ease of use the app offers I have still yet to receive any customer provided artwork from any clients that was built using Affinity. You can lead a horse to water but you can’t make it drink.

    Doug A Roberts
    Community Expert
    Community Expert
    June 9, 2026

    Ya, I get the server charges, but is every filter from here on out going to cost a subscription plus a ton of credits?

     

    If it uses AI it will. I don’t need/want the AI functions, and everything else in Illustrator functions the same as before, so it makes no difference to me.

    5AD.ink
    Participating Frequently
    June 9, 2026

    Not exactly thrilled by it when results look wonky. First image is the one I drew. Everything else is full of wonk. If the argument is “Turntable will save artists time on complex images” is to be believable I need to see believable results. I’ve seen what other artists can do with Illustrator. My unicorn below is a doodle by comparison. If turntable can’t handle this, Adobe needs to get its house in order before buying tokens is considered acceptable. 

    What’s up with the eye?
    Seems skinnier and flatter
    Goopy AI slop.